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Dusty Bottoms Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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Originally posted by Blake Clements:
quote:
Originally posted by Karl:
Do you say:

I need to Hoover the carpet?
or
I need to vacuum the carpet?

It depends on what country you are from? [Wink]
[yep] You blow your nose with a Kleenex and put the food in the Frigidaire and Hoover the carpets in some countries.

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Dusty Bottoms Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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quote:
Originally posted by Weekend Warrior:
quote:
Originally posted by Todd Lamb:
quote:
Originally posted by Weekend Warrior:
Get out the measuring stick....

I think they're going to use the water displacement test....
Cold water? [Eek!]
no, cc'ing their heads
[duck]

[rolling on floor laughin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Blake Clements:
quote:
Originally posted by Karl:
Do you say:

I need to Hoover the carpet?
or
I need to vacuum the carpet?

It depends on what country you are from? [Wink]
Have you ever used a vacum? [rolling on floor laughin]

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Taylor Ferranti

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quote:
Originally posted by Dusty Bottoms:
quote:
Originally posted by Blake Clements:
quote:
Originally posted by Karl:
Do you say:

I need to Hoover the carpet?
or
I need to vacuum the carpet?

It depends on what country you are from? [Wink]
[yep] You blow your nose with a Kleenex and put the food in the Frigidaire and Hoover the carpets in some countries.
in this part of the south ( admittedly bassackwards) They ask what type of Coke... Not meaning diet,zero or caffeine free either.. Meaning like Sprite,rootbeer etc, all Cokes! Even Von C's drink of choice, Mountain Dew is a Coke here! [nope]

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quote:
Originally posted by Drago:
quote:
Originally posted by Dusty Bottoms:
quote:
Originally posted by Blake Clements:
quote:
Originally posted by Karl:
Do you say:

I need to Hoover the carpet?
or
I need to vacuum the carpet?

It depends on what country you are from? [Wink]
[yep] You blow your nose with a Kleenex and put the food in the Frigidaire and Hoover the carpets in some countries.
in this part of the south ( admittedly bassackwards) They ask what type of Coke... Not meaning diet,zero or caffeine free either.. Meaning like Sprite,rotbeer etc, all Cokes! Even Von c's drink of choice, Mountain Dew is a Coke here! [nope]
That's even prevalent in Texas too.
"What'll you have to drink?"
"I'll have a coke."
"A Pepsi it is. And you?"

And for those uninitiated folks, you "Xerox a set of copies" too.

Though I have heard of people "hoagie" the carpet before I'm not sure its origin.

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Everyone know a hoagie is a sandwich.

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Drink from the bubbler?

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Tracy Ramsey
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quote:
Originally posted by Blake Clements:
quote:
Originally posted by Karl:
Do you say:

I need to Hoover the carpet?
or
I need to vacuum the carpet?

It depends on what country you are from? [Wink]
just spoke with von C, he said in some countries, you better take a weed wacker to that shag carpet before you get near it with your 'Hoover'.
Much prefers Scandinavian countries where 'smooth' is the standard finish, any size/strength 'Hoover' works jus fine.
[burst]

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I have been known to hoover a hoagie, especially after a doobie.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jamie Tucker:
All I know is the this years runoffs winner had none of the above!

How would anyone know?

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Karl,

As I said when they fired us from the Adhoc, call me anything but "regional only". [fight]

Ara calls me FIG, works for me. Drago is to new to have a nickname but I like to call him OCW. [duck]

Locally we call him Big Swerve. [scratchchin]

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Dusty Bottoms Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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quote:
Originally posted by JIM DANIELS:
Karl,

As I said when they fired us from the Adhoc, call me anything but "regional only". [fight]

Ara calls me FIG, works for me. Drago is to new to have a nickname but I like to call him OCW. [duck]

Locally we call him Big Swerve. [scratchchin]

Draaahgo is growing on me. I pronounce it like that now.

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Dusty Bottoms Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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quote:
Originally posted by Zauskycop:
Drink from the bubbler?

Me in Eau Claire, WI: "do you know where I can find an ATM?

Local: "huh?"
Me: "I need some cash"
Local: "Oh! A Tyme Machine!"
Me thinking (not realizing it's spelled with a "y" at the time): "Wow! WTF? A Time Machine really?"

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quote:
Originally posted by guest driver:
quote:
Originally posted by Blake Clements:
quote:
Originally posted by Karl:
Do you say:

I need to Hoover the carpet?
or
I need to vacuum the carpet?

It depends on what country you are from? [Wink]
just spoke with von C, he said in some countries, you better take a weed wacker to that shag carpet before you get near it with your 'Hoover'.
Much prefers Scandinavian countries where 'smooth' is the standard finish, any size/strength 'Hoover' works jus fine.
[burst]

The Brazilians got it right by going with hardwood floors and a throw mat for decor.

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Dang! I remember rebuilding mine and they didn't spin like that at all. Going to recheck the nut torque for one thing, but there's definitely some voodoo there.

Does this mean that once a person invests in blueprinted hubs, when he rebuilds them, they'll spin that freely too?

Or will each rebuild require blueprinting?

Back in my Spec RX7 days, I was taught to torque the nut down and back it off, then retighten to finger tight. Can't remember what I did on my SM when I rebuilt them, though I think I torqued them according to the book.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sphinx:

Does this mean that once a person invests in blueprinted hubs, when he rebuilds them, they'll spin that freely too?

No. But after you REM them, maybe.

quote:
Originally posted by Sphinx:

Back in my Spec RX7 days, I was taught to torque the nut down and back it off, then retighten to finger tight. Can't remember what I did on my SM when I rebuilt them, though I think I torqued them according to the book.

Define "finger tight". If its what I'm thinking of (literally tightening with fingers only) that sounds insanely dangerous. Were the RX7 hubs a press fit or did they just slide on like the Miata?

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John Mueller Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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quote:
Originally posted by Sphinx:
Back in my Spec RX7 days, I was taught to torque the nut down and back it off, then retighten to finger tight.

Finger tight then a cotter pin right???

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B Wilson Verified Driver Series Champ
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I polish the nails and run with graphite... Oh wait, that's my pinewood car.

Actually, anyone who is looking for their kid to win a derby, PM me I have the proven technique that made me the hero with my son.

-bw

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quote:
Originally posted by B Wilson:
I polish the nails and run with graphite... Oh wait, that's my pinewood car.

Actually, anyone who is looking for their kid to win a derby, PM me I have the proven technique that made me the hero with my son.

-bw

Going off topic, but I grew up with an aeronautical engineer father. Our pinewood derby cars were actually tested in the wind tunnel at NASA. We would grind the wheels down to a razor edge, but BSA outlawed that. Proven techniques include adding camber to the wheels and also offsetting the axles so that only three wheels touch the track at any given time.

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you can get two wheels just touching the track if you work hard enough at offset, camber and ballast placement. Very difficult to do but it's what got us the big trophy!

-bw

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You guys will even bend the rules in pine wood derby. No wonder we're having a hard enough time with Spec Miata rules.

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Thread thoroughly hijacked!

Don't.
Get.
Me.
Started.

From razor edging the wheels, chamfering the axle nails, molybdenum for lubrication, reducing the body thickness to the minimums (while removing as much "other" wood as possible) so you could put ALL the weight at the rear, my Dad did everything.

Needless to say my and my brother's shadow boxes were packed with 1st place ribbons when we were going up.

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Keep the hijack going!

In my pack we just decided to end it all and create a dad's class. That way the kids w/o dads in the know were able to have fun.

Also, it was pretty easy to hollow out part of the car, put in a lead sinker, and then wood putty back over it and paint it.

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quote:
Originally posted by Motor City Hamilton:
You guys will even bend the rules in pine wood derby. No wonder we're having a hard enough time with Spec Miata rules.

Beat me to it Kieth.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gibscreen:
quote:
Originally posted by Sphinx:

Does this mean that once a person invests in blueprinted hubs, when he rebuilds them, they'll spin that freely too?

No. But after you REM them, maybe.

quote:
Originally posted by Sphinx:

Back in my Spec RX7 days, I was taught to torque the nut down and back it off, then retighten to finger tight. Can't remember what I did on my SM when I rebuilt them, though I think I torqued them according to the book.

Define "finger tight". If its what I'm thinking of (literally tightening with fingers only) that sounds insanely dangerous. Were the RX7 hubs a press fit or did they just slide on like the Miata?

No, they were the type you press into the rotors.

Ok, as I think back about it, it was probably slightly more than finger tight. I think the procedure was tighten down, back off 1/4 or 1/2 turn and make sure that there is neither slop in the rotor/bearing/spindle (ie: no clicking) nor was it so tight that you were creating resistance.

quote:
Originally posted by John Mueller:
quote:
Originally posted by Sphinx:
Back in my Spec RX7 days, I was taught to torque the nut down and back it off, then retighten to finger tight.

Finger tight then a cotter pin right???
[rolling on floor laughin] What's a cotter pin? I'm getting this mental image of wheels flying everywhere.

Yes, we used a cotter pin, one of the rare consessions to safety. [Smile]

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I know this thread is as far off as a Lamborghini driving in the North Pole, but I am going to try to redirect here.
Why do you guys only talk about Redline CV-2?
What about Motul, Royal Purple, Lucas Oil, or any other brand grease for the wheel bearings?

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There's also Swepco which I've heard good things about...

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quote:
Originally posted by SCCA_Racer:
I know this thread is as far off as a Lamborghini driving in the North Pole, but I am going to try to redirect here.
Why do you guys only talk about Redline CV-2?
What about Motul, Royal Purple, Lucas Oil, or any other brand grease for the wheel bearings?

I've had Redline CV-2 separate on me (despite what others say on here). The red liquid on my shelf at home had no other source.

So, a local circle track prep shop sold me Mystic, as they had stopped selling redline due to separation issues. Of course, their cars are much heavier. However, after viewing JD's video, I doubt anyone else is using Mystic. That stuff is definitely heavier than redline.

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Interesting on the separation.

Did you happen to contact them about it?

Perhaps it maintains consistency while in use but standing in hot environments (I see you're in Hot-Lanta) causes things to break down?

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I'm going to guess it's due to humidity.

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Are you guys using Swepco "101" Moly Grease or some other number?

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I'm using Redline.My one failure came with Amsoil synthetic.

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Use Amsoil synthetic because that is what the front runners told me to use. So far so good.

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quote:
Originally posted by CP:
Are you guys using Swepco "101" Moly Grease or some other number?

Yes. I had a RF hub fail on my car shortly after purchasing it. Bought new front hubs from Mazda and repacked them with Swepco 101 and have run 16 race days on it plus a 3 hour enduro with no issues. [thumbsup] Since I have another 3 hour this Sat I suppose I better add the proverbial "knock on wood".

 
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