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Steve McMorn
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I'm currently on Hawk blues as like the initial bite compared to Carbotech XP10, which I find to soft

A friend has recommended I "step up" to Hawk DTC 60's which he says are better and "the best for Spec Miata"

Anyone used DTC 60s?
Any thoughts on this advice

Cheers
Steve

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My $0.02.

DTC 60 works over a bit hotter range 400-1600 F compared to 250-1000 for the blues. More important in a heavier car. DTC 60s are a bit harder on the rotors in my experience. Not a really big deal since I toss the rotors at a pad change any way.

I've run the Blues and PFC97. Now I run DTC 60 up front. No complaints. I also believe that the Blue material is being phased out but I can't confirm that. All in all, I think you'll be fine with the 60s.

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I am currently using the DTC 30's front and the DTC 60's in the rear. Comparing them to Carbotech the DTC's have more initial bite and about the same modulation. They have less bite than the Blues

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I use DTC-60 front and DTC-30 rear. Spoke to the Hawk engineer today at the runoffs and I may try the DTC-60's on the rear as well.

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Paul McLester

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I've been running Hawk Blues forever and finally switched to DTC60's for the Runoffs. The DTC's have less initial bite, but felt a tad better to modulate. No fade issues and I could brake with anybody. Found the best price at hawkpadsdirect.com.

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Jeff Luckritz
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quote:
Originally posted by Gatoratty:
I may try the DTC-60's on the rear as well.

What'd he say to make you want to do that?

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I tried the DTC-30's and they wore faster than my front 60's. Then we tried an HT-10 on the rear and the front edges chipped....he told me the heat caused that and recommended trying the 60's on the rear. I changed calipers and rotors so we will see.

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Looking at my post I might have the 60-30 combo mixed up. Sorry about that I was going by memory. On a side note play with the different combos to figure out what works for your driving style and the tracks you spend most of your time. Keep in mind different car years have different brake bias valves as well. All of these play a big part of what will work for you in the end. Good Luck

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Does anyone else have any experience with the 30 or 60 for the rears?

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I recently switched to the DTC 60's in the front and the DTC 30's in the rear. I switched from the Carbotech's and the initial bite of the Hawk's is higher, so I found it easier to find the lock up point, but the performance is pretty good.

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Jeff Thompson
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Paul - The wear rate on mine is 2.5/1, F60's to R30's. You could have something else going on in there. Proportioning valve?

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That's why I changed all 4 calipers and rotors to see if the wear rate was being caused by a piston sticking, I will also replace the proportioning valve and see if they wear better.

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Paul McLester

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John: how would you compare the DTCs to the Blues? I'm thinking about giving them a try next season if they're priced about the same. Heard it was wet today and they had a fire truck pumping out the corners...

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my car came with a new set of Blues when I bought it. I had never run them before (weren't available for my car), they are ok, but I still ordered a set of Raybestos ST43's when it was time to reorder.

ST43's have great feel, good bite and last forever.

hoop

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I went from blues to DTC. Where the blues are like a switch (on or off) you can squeeze on the DTC and then modulate the pressure easier.

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Paul McLester

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Cy - I like the DTC's. Started with Blues, tried PFC's and went back to the DTC's. Try 'em.

Bagged qualifying. Will start from the back tomorrow which means by the time I get to LH'r someone will have covered the track with mud and water. Should be fun.

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quote:
Originally posted by Muda:
Cy - I like the DTC's. Started with Blues, tried PFC's and went back to the DTC's. Try 'em.

Which PFCs?

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Good luck tomorrow John! I heard Longo tempted Lake Lime Rock yet again today. I was going to try to make it tomorrow to start from the rear as well but real life intervened...

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Steve McMorn
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Just a quik update:

bought the DTC60s and tried them out this weekend at Thunderbolt, NJMP ... and really liked them

Not quite the initial bite of the hawk blues but just as effective and I was able to modulate my braking pretty well

I like these and am going to stick with them next season

Cheers
S

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quote:
Originally posted by Steve McMorn:
Just a quik update:

bought the DTC60s and tried them out this weekend at Thunderbolt, NJMP ... and really liked them

Not quite the initial bite of the hawk blues but just as effective and I was able to modulate my braking pretty well

I like these and am going to stick with them next season

Cheers
S

Did you use the front and rear?

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I switched from Blues to DTC60's front and rear. I have a 95 and have really liked them ,great modulation and better wear for me. Raceshopper has been the best place to get them from -price and service + NASA contingency helps.

Steve McMorn
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quote:
Originally posted by Frank Todaro:
quote:
Originally posted by Steve McMorn:
Just a quik update:

bought the DTC60s and tried them out this weekend at Thunderbolt, NJMP ... and really liked them

Not quite the initial bite of the hawk blues but just as effective and I was able to modulate my braking pretty well

I like these and am going to stick with them next season

Cheers
S

Did you use the front and rear?
YES _ front and rear

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