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Any advantage to taking them out?

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Yes

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Jay Flath
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They dont serve any type of aero benefit?

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Not an aero advantage?...how about a weight advantage? hardly. You have to understand Mike C's driving to understand the advantage. It involves replacing fenders often. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike C:
Yes

Mike can you tell me what the advantages or removing them are?
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Also, if you are removing them, does the small section at the back of the rears get pulled, or does that make the rear bumper cover too loose?

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I had my rear liners off for awhile but it seemed that more water and dirt got into the interior while running in the rain, so I put them back on. Anyone else found this?
Ray

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Dave, remove all sections, it won't hurt rear bumper cover.

Ray, no, why are you driving in the dirt [Smile]

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Hey Bruce,
Why I am driving in the dirt? Oh, let me count the ways...
Ray

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When I think aero advantage to removing the fender liners, I'm reminded of bicyle racers shaving their legs and swimmers shaving their eyebrows. It's like pissing yourself in a dark pair of pants. Sure it gives you a warm feeling but nobody sees a difference.

I see it as dirty turbulent air. Unless someone shows me the difference I'm not buying it. (and yeah, I shaved my legs regardless just in case it did make a difference)

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quote:
Originally posted by Weekend Warrior:
Not an aero advantage?...how about a weight advantage? hardly. You have to understand Mike C's driving to understand the advantage. It involves replacing fenders often. [Big Grin]

Hey that can really save time between qualifying and the race.... don't knock it Alan!!! Those pesky fender liners just get in the way!

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quote:
Originally posted by B Wilson:
Dave, remove all sections, it won't hurt rear bumper cover.

Ray, no, why are you driving in the dirt [Smile]

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Driving in the dirt is the short way man!

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I remove all the plastic crap I can. It just makes it rader to work on the car

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Looks like I have more to remove now

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To be honest, I leave my fronts in to keep the paint nice on top of the front fenders (hot tires fling rocks). Only matters if you do keep your front fenders for more than a few races [Smile] Also unlike Dave and Mike, I only have one car to work on.

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quote:
Originally posted by B Wilson:
To be honest, I leave my fronts in to keep the paint nice on top of the front fenders (hot tires fling rocks). Only matters if you do keep your front fenders for more than a few races [Smile] Also unlike Dave and Mike, I only have one car to work on.

-bw

I only have one to work on also..... maybe you are a bit more, um...careful, smart, chose your adjective...

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quote:
Originally posted by tony senese:
quote:
Originally posted by B Wilson:
To be honest, I leave my fronts in to keep the paint nice on top of the front fenders (hot tires fling rocks). Only matters if you do keep your front fenders for more than a few races [Smile] Also unlike Dave and Mike, I only have one car to work on.

-bw

I only have one to work on also..... maybe you are a bit more, um...careful, smart, chose your adjective...
lucky, better at avoiding porsche 944's that do stupid things.....

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quote:
Originally posted by Keith in WA:
When I think aero advantage to removing the fender liners, I'm reminded of bicyle racers shaving their legs and swimmers shaving their eyebrows. It's like pissing yourself in a dark pair of pants. Sure it gives you a warm feeling but nobody sees a difference.

I see it as dirty turbulent air. Unless someone shows me the difference I'm not buying it. (and yeah, I shaved my legs regardless just in case it did make a difference)

Now I definitely had to LOL at work. People are now looking at me funny. But that's not unusual.

As far as the mental image of a smooth-legged male racer in a driving suit: can someone hand me the eye bleach?

[Eek!]

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quote:
Originally posted by Brandon F.:
quote:
Originally posted by Keith in WA:
When I think aero advantage to removing the fender liners, I'm reminded of bicyle racers shaving their legs and swimmers shaving their eyebrows. It's like pissing yourself in a dark pair of pants. Sure it gives you a warm feeling but nobody sees a difference.

I see it as dirty turbulent air. Unless someone shows me the difference I'm not buying it. (and yeah, I shaved my legs regardless just in case it did make a difference)

Now I definitely had to LOL at work. People are now looking at me funny. But that's not unusual.

As far as the mental image of a smooth-legged male racer in a driving suit: can someone hand me the eye bleach?

[Eek!]

Yeah, we have to paddock with the guy!

Sorry Keith. We love you and looking forward to racing you in March <3 months away.

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quote:
Originally posted by Keith in WA:
...of bicyle racers shaving their legs and swimmers shaving their eyebrows...

Just a point of clarification from someone who use to do bicycle races from criteriums to road races and still does triathlons. We shaved our legs because the road rash from a crash heals much quicker if hair follicles are not trapped in the wounds. Back to the topic at hand, I thought the primary purpose of finder liners was to keep noise down on passenger cars. They do not weigh very much but one extra part to worry about if still installed.

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quote:
Originally posted by tony senese:
quote:
Originally posted by B Wilson:
To be honest, I leave my fronts in to keep the paint nice on top of the front fenders (hot tires fling rocks). Only matters if you do keep your front fenders for more than a few races [Smile] Also unlike Dave and Mike, I only have one car to work on.

-bw

I only have one to work on also..... maybe you are a bit more, um...careful, smart, chose your adjective...
Maybe, but maybe not. Let's put it this way, this year was a very good year [Smile]

-bw

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quote:
Originally posted by cam:
quote:
Originally posted by Keith in WA:
...of bicyle racers shaving their legs and swimmers shaving their eyebrows...

Just a point of clarification from someone who use to do bicycle races from criteriums to road races and still does triathlons. We shaved our legs because the road rash from a crash heals much quicker if hair follicles are not trapped in the wounds.
I've heard 'em all... wind resistance, you feel slippery going through the air, look fast=feel fast=go fast, road rash (I was of the easier changing the bandages every day mindset), less muscle damage in pre and post race rubdowns. You use whatever rationization you want to explain why you have the itchies from stubble poking through your jeans. [Big Grin]

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