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WildBill88
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Anyone going?

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Yes, instructing.

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I'll be there breaking in a new motor.

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I will be there instructing and running laps in the Red session...

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ill be there instructing and running through whats left of my last set of RA-1s

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Here are the details:

Our next Performance Driving School is set for Dec 13-14 and that would be an ideal time for you guys to test your cars/tires. You may register at clubregistration.net The weekend costs $275 or you may do one day for $175. Each or either day you will receive five 20-25 minutes sessions on the track. If you have any
questions, drop another email or give me a call. Thanks, Rusty Rush TWS
979/690-2500

WildBill88
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This was a great learning experience with the new 888, however the new restrictions on the early 1.8L has left me pondering.

Top end power has been compromised a lot. While In the past I could hang with the 1.6L and the 99's on top end in 5th gear, I am now getting eaton alive.

The pendulum has moved way too far to the other end for this car, and made it not competitive anymore.

Adding 35 lbs and more restrictive plate was too much!

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Bill, didn't one of your competitors make that restrictor plate for you. Better check to make sure he didn't make it a bit small (:

Has anyone actully dynoed a 1.8 to see how much power we are losing with the smaller restrictor plate? I've seen some posts that indicate it's only 1 HP, but no confirmation with dyno results. At this point I'm more concerned with extra 35 pounds and the resulting 100 pound gap between the 1.6 vs. 1.8

My 1.8 is scheduled to dyno next weekend with the new air intake restrictor straw in place and I'm just curious if anyone else has done the comparision so I'll know what to exect.

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quote:
Originally posted by WildBill88:
This was a great learning experience with the new 888, however the new restrictions on the early 1.8L has left me pondering.

Top end power has been compromised a lot. While In the past I could hang with the 1.6L and the 99's on top end in 5th gear, I am now getting eaton alive.

The pendulum has moved way too far to the other end for this car, and made it not competitive anymore.

Adding 35 lbs and more restrictive plate was too much!

It may also mean that the larger restrictor, with it's slightly better performance, helped just enough to make up for a otherwise "less than perfect" motor. Remember, adjustments are made based on comparison of top level prep cars. You may think you were penalized too much, but it could be that your car is farther away from "perfect" than those you normally run around and you really are behind on an "even" playing field.

That being said, the 1.6L was provided with significant help compared to the other models.

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The smallerstraw will also make getting through 'larry, moe and curly' well more critical than it once was for the 1.8L cars.

Those of us in 1.6's could just kiss your asses goodbye if we followed a 1.8 too closely and had to lift if you bobbled in front of us. You guys would just motor away. Now, it will put more emphasis on getting those turns just right.

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Is there a way my particular 1.6L can be provided with even more signficiant help? [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Mike Bell:
Is there a way my particular 1.6L can be provided with even more signficiant help? [Smile]

I... MUST.... RESIST!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by WildBill88:
Adding 35 lbs and more restrictive plate was too much!

My emphasis added.

mid-2008 vs 2009 weights:
90-93: 2300-2285 = -15 lbs
94-95: 2385-2375 = +10 lbs

So there's 10 pounds more competitiveness for ya right there! [Wink] [Razz]

JD

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quote:
Originally posted by Kent Carter:
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Bell:
Is there a way my particular 1.6L can be provided with even more signficiant help? [Smile]

I... MUST.... RESIST!!!
LOL - Bump Drafting don't count Kent!

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The dyno results are more on 1:1 final gear ratio, and that does not take into account the additional 35lbs.

Houston will be the real test for me as I have more data there I can measure my runs from last year against.

My biggest challange at TWS was top end power. And Yes, Collins made my restrictor, I guess I better check it, lol!

[ 01-02-2009, 01:04 AM: Message edited by: WildBill88 ]

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Is it legal to make your own restrictor?

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Blake, it doesn't matter, Bill always forgets to put it back in after the IT race... even at a double national.

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Kent, Ouch, that hurts!

I have no reason to forget this year, no IT races for me. Its welded in, lol!

Blake
No its not legal, as far as I know, but I needed one for TWS, just in time to run there.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kent Carter:
Blake, it doesn't matter, Bill always forgets to put it back in after the IT race... even at a double national.

Ouch! [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Kent, Ouch, that hurts!

I have no reason to forget this year, no IT races for me. Its welded in, lol!

Blake
No its not legal, as far as I know, but I needed one for TWS, just in time to run there.

Had to pick on you a bit....

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