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Now that we are racing somewhere else than MSRH, I need to move my car.
I'm planning on renting a cheap, light, flatbed trailer and pulling it with my CX9 (3500lb capacity with the tow package).
I have 2 questions:
1) Does anyone know of a good place to rent trailers?
2) Is there a better alternative, eg a group from Houston that can transport the car for a small fee, etc?
I'd like to avoid flat/2-wheel towing in case the car gets bent and can't be rolled.

Thanks!

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I would advise against the Uhaul trailers for your miata.

1) If it's wet you may have a hell of a time getting the car up the ramps. Some have zero traction.

2) If you're on any kind of incline, the ramps may not touch the ground unless your hitch is at a conviniently perfect height. A flat parking lot can be tricky if your hich is lower than perfect.

3) The angle between the ramps and the bed plus things that stick up off the trailer in bad places can do a number on your frame rails

4) You WILL have to climb in and out the window of your car once loaded.

5) They're heavy as hell.

I rented one...once. Unfortunately when I needed it I had a hard time finding anyone else that rented trailers.

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You might want to do the math on your equipment to be towed. Even with the lightest aluminum trailer you will be distressingly close to the rated limit. I've never towed with a vehicle that felt good towing at its limit.

I tried the Uhaul tow dolly once...

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I'm gonna have to agree with steve. With a 3500 limit, your going to have to find a 1000 pound trailer to even get close to being under that limit assuming you carry an extra set of tires, equipment, tools ect along with you. your car wont like you towing that close to the limit thats for sure

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You need a trailer like this Trailer Pic to meet that weight limit but you dont want to tow too far with it.

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Jeff,
This might be a stupid question, but what would be the problem with towing that trailer a long distance?
I have a heavy double axle construction trailer that does double duty as a car hauler and I am looking to change it out and that looks like a nice option, who makes it?

Jim

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For one, if you blow one tire on a two tire trailer they don't handle so well trying to pull it to the side of the road.

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A trailer with one axle won't be as stable as one with more.

I could probably tow that with my 7000 pound truck with no problem, but throw a squirrely trailer behind a small truck that only weighs a little more than the trailer and it will be a handfull.

Add poor conditions, a flat tire, or a wandering Subaru and you have a flaming disaster.

Its the catch 22 of the towing world.

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Shoot me a PM. We spoke at MSRH a few times. May have an idea for you.

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Jim,

it looks like you got your answer. Stability, blow-out hazard. A little trailer like that is nice and convenient but the bare minimum for trailering a car. I got the pic from the classifieds. I have no information on manufacturer.

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Thanks Jeff and others, looks like I am staying with the 10K# trailer for now and will look for a cheap superlight dual axle. don't laugh it may exist.

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Just adding a data point, I bought a new tandem axel steel trailer with wood floor for around $900 around 5 years ago. I tow with a V6 Pathfinder. Not a great set-up but I live in a flat part of the country. Knowing what I know now, I would have bought an AL open trailer just to get it lighter.

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Trailer weight around 1K (guessing)
Pathfinder tow capability = 3,500 lbs (5 s/p manual, auto version was 5K, not sure why)
Stow trailer at the house behind a fence to keep Home Owners Association happy

Do you keep you car at MSRH? Why not keep the trailer there also? There seems to be a large are in back with lots of smaller to very larger trailer.

There are local arrive and drive services available, they can store and deliver your car for you. Not sure of the cost.

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Cam:
what does that trailer weight, and what's the towing capacity on your pathfinder?

The problem with buying a trailer is where do you put it for 355 days of the year... I live in a townhome.

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To revive an old thread, and I couldn't find this info when I searched....What size trailer do you need to safely tow 2 SM's? Has to be bumper pull. What are the opinions of towing with an Excursion near it's max rated 11,000lbs? Diesel power of course. I typically don't like towing real close to limit.

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Do you mean bumper mounted hitch or just not a goose neck or 5th wheel?

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Originally posted by jbenoit28:
To revive an old thread, and I couldn't find this info when I searched....What size trailer do you need to safely tow 2 SM's? Has to be bumper pull. What are the opinions of towing with an Excursion near it's max rated 11,000lbs? Diesel power of course. I typically don't like towing real close to limit.

Joe

bumper pull? I think you mean class 3 receiver.

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I've had two cars in my 28' tag, which is really a 26 footer inside & they had to be bumper to bumper. To tow two cars you'll either need a 32' enclosed tag or a 28-30' open trailer with a minimum of two 6k pound axles. Either one should be no issue for a diesel 2500/F250 series with tight weight bars & good trailer brakes...

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I have a 28' featherlite tag and two Miatas fit fine, tows like any enclosed trailer.
Basic model helps keep the weight down. I built steel racks for tools and wheels. You don't want to hang stuff off the side of an aluminum trailer.

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Thanks guys. I did mean a tag trailer, sorry. Truck has a class IV receiver hitch I think. So it seems that a 28' will work but just barely and has little room on the floor for tools and gear. I've already got an Equalizer brand hitch with the bars.

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Before I get the fundage to buy a trailer, I've been renting one from my local rental place. Many places that rent chainsaws, wood splitters, etc may also rent trailers. Just look under "rentals" in the Yellow pages and ask that you are looking for a "car hauler".

I agree on towing with the CX-9. It'll be tough to find a trailer small enough to meet your needs, and feel confident enough that you are not hurting your drivetrain. I have an '01 Silverado with a tow package, and I can feel it even working when towing.

Good Luck.

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Take a look in the classifieds here on the site. There's a stacker open trailer for sale. Too bad it's on the wrong coast since it looks like a great price but it might give you an idea for other solutions than a really long trailer.

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In deciding what to buy as a trailer, I think it's worth considering your tow vehicle, both in terms of towing capacity and weight.

I tow a 24' enclosed trailer with a Ford F250 7.3 liter turbo diesel. While it has 500 lb.-ft. of torque, it only has a little more power than my Miata (well, a lot more, but still only 235, less than my stock two-seat Honda). I estimate that the trailer, fully loaded for a weekend, weighs about 8,000 pounds, not a lot more than my truck (a little over 7,000 pounds).

I wouldn't want to tow any more with this truck, from both standpoints. I already slow down over significant (either in terms of slope or length) hills; add several thousand pounds in the form of a longer trailer and another car, and towing over mountains (there's a lot of them around here) would be an exercise in frustration. Also, I've had to stop quickly a few times; the trailer has brakes, but I was just as happy that my truck is so massive, relative to the weight of the trailer; a few thousand pounds more might have resulted in an ugly outcome.

Just food for thought.

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Mark,

I agree. I like to have a little cushion while towing. The biggest hill I need to worry about is the Skyway Bridge as the rest of Florida is Flat and I can't afford to race much farther than Roebling. I have about the same trailer as you do but a 2005 6.0L diesel. Tows fine. It looks like the bigger trailer would add about 3800#'s to my load. That is a concern. Right now I'm just using two trucks and trailers. Not very effiecient though.

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Joe,

I faced the same issue when I bought my trailer last year, since my son (who lives fairly close to me) was going to start racing and wanted me to get a trailer large enough for two cars.

After thinking about it for a while, I declined, for a variety of reasons: (i) Storage--I can park a 24' trailer in my driveway; I would not be able to get a 32' trailer in and out of my driveway; (ii) tow vehicle--I'd have to get a one-ton truck, at least, to tow that trailer, loaded with two race cars and all the assorted associated crap; (iii) difficulty of driving--it's just not as difficult or dangerous to tow one 24', 8,000 pound trailer as it is to tow a 32', 13,000 pound trailer.

Yes, David has to drive his own car to the track (he drove his car his first year of racing, then bought an old Suburban and open trailer for this season), but I don't regret the decision at all.

   

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