Region: Oregon
Car #: 01
SMIM: 2009 Ore. Region Crew Chief of the Year 2010 Ore. Region ITA Champion Posts: 32
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october event coming up in 2 weeks. who is coming? let me know so we can reserve space. is anyone planning on running the thursday test day? see everyone at the event.
Region: NWR/Oregon
Car #: #26
Year : 1991 Posts: 334
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Had to chose between ICSCC event this weekend at ORP (never been to the new track) or SCCA the following weekend. Have opted to travel to ORP.
Congrats to Keith for finishing 3rd in the Mothra class at the just concluded Conference race at Pacific. To see highlights, or lowlights as the case may be, feel free to view my video from both the Group 8 (special race group) as well as Sunday's Group 2 race.
Region: NWR / Oregon
Car #: 88
Year : 95 Posts: 2000
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I didn't get 3rd. I set my beer down to collect my trophy and they called the wrong name. Turns out there was a car mis-catagorized as ITA that was 2nd bumping me down to 4th. Sadly, there is no engraved plastic statue of Mothra proudly sitting on my mantle.
-------------------- Keith Novak (Will work for tires)
Region: Oregon
Car #: 01
SMIM: 2009 Ore. Region Crew Chief of the Year 2010 Ore. Region ITA Champion Posts: 32
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i have been called out of retirement, and working agian (dam). i will not be able to go out early thursday and reserve our spaces. ken is going to try and go out thursday sometime to reserve for us. if anyone is going out for the thursday test day, please let me know. hopefully that person can reserve space for us. i do have construction tape to cordon off our area. everyone who plans to come to this event please respond to this so we can save space for everyone. oh any special paddock requirements let me know.
Region: NW
Car #: 23
Year : 1999 Posts: 35
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I'll be there, no matter what! Damn job! I just need a space for the car and 28' trailer. Looks like the turn-out is low so far. Maybe space will be plentiful. Thanks.
-------------------- Ericjonesmotorsports.com "If it can't kill ya, it ain't a sport."
Region: NWR/Oregon; ICSCC
Car #: 70
Year : 1991 Posts: 1111
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I'm giving it serious consideration; I'm told I need seat time (not on my own couch) to get faster. But the weather forecast is deteriorating rapidly....
Region: Oregon
Car #: 01
SMIM: 2009 Ore. Region Crew Chief of the Year 2010 Ore. Region ITA Champion Posts: 32
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mark, come down and run with us. the seat time will be a benefit for you. if it should be wet out you will gain the seat time and car control that will assist you in going faster in the dry. SEE IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS!!!!!
Region: nw
Car #: 8 is great
Year : 1993 Posts: 152
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Sadly, I'm out. I'm scheduled to be in New Mexico the 15th for hunting and then again in Hells Canyon the last week of the month for hunting. Just don't feel that the funds are available right now. I'm going to save up a racing war chest for next year and finally get serious about getting fast. I'm tired of being at the back.
Region: Oregon
Car #: 51
Year : 1993 Posts: 322
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I'm not entering either (also for budget reasons). I'll be there corner-working though.
All - Don't forget the Friday and Saturday evening socials are for everyone. All the corner workers I've spoken with would love to see more drivers and crew there. Free dinner, soft drinks and adult beverages can take a small bite out of the racing budget. The food is always good.
Region: Oregon
Car #: 68
Year : 91 Posts: 2359
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You will be rewarded Keith. lead and follow during practice, just you and I.
-bw
-------------------- Bruce Wilson 2010 Oregon Region Champ 2010 Monte Shelton Driver of the Year 2010 25 Hours of Thunderhill E3 and Under 2 liter Overall Champion Oregon Region SM Class Advisor
Region: NWR / Oregon
Car #: 88
Year : 95 Posts: 2000
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Cool Bruce. I will definately take you up on that.
Randy- I'd rather beat you guys Sat and Sun than beat you on season points. Last weekend, running mostly mid-field was a great chance to work on my racecraft. Lots of dicing it up. I was looking forward to using some of it. Plus I started making sense out of the squiggly lines in my data and it was a real eye opener. My car isn't the biggest factor. Sure, I sling the car around some corners pretty fast on any given lap. I just don't combine the fast sectors into any single lap. It averages out making my times somewhat consistant but I left a good 2-3 seconds on the table in any given "fast" lap at PR.
-------------------- Keith Novak (Will work for tires)
Region: Oregon
Car #: 00
Year : 1992 Posts: 294
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quote:Originally posted by Mark de Regt: I'm giving it serious consideration; I'm told I need seat time (not on my own couch) to get faster. But the weather forecast is deteriorating rapidly....
Mark,
You said you were starting to feel better about the rain earlier in the year. This is PIR...NOT PR. PIR is a whole lot LESS risky then PR in the rain...so come out and play. I think you are ready. Do you really want your next race to be 6-7 months from now.
The weather will change comstantly from now until the race weekend. Yesterday it looked like possible showers on Friday, today Friday looks good and possible showers on Sat....at this pace it won't rain until a week after the race.
Region: NWR/Oregon; ICSCC
Car #: 70
Year : 1991 Posts: 1111
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Tom,
I appreciate the sentiment, and even agree, to an extent.
Yes, I feel much less apprehensive about racing in the rain (up to a point). Especially on a track with some runoff (ask Ken about the runoff on a wet track ). But that doesn't mean that I look forward to spending all the money involved in towing to Portland, staying in a motel for three nights, eating out for three days, in order to race in the rain, if I know it's going to rain. And be cold.
I've signed up for the race. I have motel reservations. I'm having the mysterious horrible noise emanating from the back of my car since the tire wall at PR whacked me last Friday looked at.
If I think that the conditions will be ok (not necessarily dry all weekend, but not pouring rain on race day), I'll probably come on down.
Region: NWR / Oregon
Car #: 88
Year : 95 Posts: 2000
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Terrel, f- season points. Like we really care. I want to race your ass. You know you want to race mine.
We've established that and we'll help bleed each other's brakes or whatever between shit talking like always..then race. Hell...you loaned me your damn car and kicked my ass driving it.
We're both pissed when the other guy has some reason the other guy's car takes a crap and we lose out on good shit talking rights.
I'm now a firm believer it's not the car, it's the driver. F&^&% poitnts, lets race.
-------------------- Keith Novak (Will work for tires)
Region: Oregon
Car #: 68
Year : 91 Posts: 2359
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Nobody be using tires as an excuse, I have lots of takeoffs.
So I ordered a set of 2/32 tires for the last race, but I only need to finish 5th in one of the races to seal the championship. Ken asked me why then am I ordering a set of tires??? I thought about it for a quick second and said, "because I want to win. Screw this championship stuff and playing it safe, once I finish the first race and add up the points, I'm racing for position!!!"
-b
-------------------- Bruce Wilson 2010 Oregon Region Champ 2010 Monte Shelton Driver of the Year 2010 25 Hours of Thunderhill E3 and Under 2 liter Overall Champion Oregon Region SM Class Advisor
Region: Oregon
Car #: 00
Year : 1992 Posts: 294
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quote:Originally posted by Mark de Regt: If I think that the conditions will be ok (not necessarily dry all weekend, but not pouring rain on race day), I'll probably come on down.
...just checked the 10 day forcast and now Fri and Sat look dry and sunday with only 30% cahnce of rain. Looks like the forcast is getting better day by day...like I said in an earlier post, at this rate it may not rain until a week after the race
Anyway, glad to see you mad plans to come...I know you'll be there
Region: NWR/Oregon; ICSCC
Car #: 70
Year : 1991 Posts: 1111
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Well, my plan was to come for the test day, and stay the weekend. Now, with rain likely both Saturday and Sunday, and rain possible on Friday, I'm not planning on coming at all. If I lived close to the track, like I do here close to Pacific Raceways, I'd go to the test day, and decide on the rest of the weekend on Thursday evening. But there is a lot of expense even coming down, and the forecast turned gruesome over night, so I'm probably not coming at all, unfortunately.
Region: Oregon
Car #: 51
Year : 1993 Posts: 322
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quote:Originally posted by Keith in WA: It's only a 60-70% chance of rain and we're on the track less than 10% of the day. I figure that means if it does rain we'll only get about 30% wet.
No, no, no, Keith. 60-70% means only that much of the track gets wet when it rains. The rest of the track stays dry.
Region: Oregon
Car #: 51
Year : 1993 Posts: 322
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Forecast has gotten wetter. I have a set of 888's with about 5/32+ tread. They're mounted on wheels. Should handle moderately wet conditions. Anyone who would like a set of 'intermediates' for this weekend is welcome to borrow them for free. PM me to make arrangements.
Region: NWR/Oregon
Car #: #26
Year : 1991 Posts: 334
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Portland is now 70% for Saturday and 80% for Sunday, but hey Seattle is 80% and 90%...you guys should have been at ORP last weekend...80 degrees and calm winds....
Good luck and intermediates would suck I would think in pretty wet conditions...ask me how I know!
Have an enjoyable(?) weekend in any event.
Bill
-------------------- William Bonsell SCCA/ICSCC #26 SM/ITA
Region: Oregon
Car #: 68
Year : 91 Posts: 2359
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All models show us at the edge of the storm that will dump a couple inches in Seattle. Most weather reports agree that it will rain, but some are saying showers, which is usually what we get this time of year. I'm guessing we may get a few wet sessions, but probably a few dry too. Local channels don't agree with each other, which doesn't match up with Weather channel and Accuweather meaning it's still a crap shoot.
-bw
-------------------- Bruce Wilson 2010 Oregon Region Champ 2010 Monte Shelton Driver of the Year 2010 25 Hours of Thunderhill E3 and Under 2 liter Overall Champion Oregon Region SM Class Advisor
Region: NWR / Oregon
Car #: 88
Year : 95 Posts: 2000
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A couple of us have the distinct advantage that in an ITA race this year, we had half the course dry, and half the course crazy wet.
So far, 5 cars are signed up in Group 7. Me and Linse make up ITA. I better show up to the qual session early to make sure I don't get stuck behind too many cars.
-------------------- Keith Novak (Will work for tires)
Region: Oregon
Car #: 00
Year : 1992 Posts: 294
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quote:Originally posted by B Wilson: meaning it's still a crappy shoot.
-bw
fixed it for you ...oh hell, rain or shine or what ever kind of crappy stuff they throw at us, I'm in Just make sure I have a nice spot on the pavement for the trailer. I love rain racing but I hate changing tires on soggy grass.
Region: nw
Car #: 8 is great
Year : 1993 Posts: 152
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I will be there in spirit and will actually be listening as all of you have fun racing while I run a track hoe all day Saturday 3/4 of a mile away. It truly sucks but business comes first right now.
Keith, I agree but we will have to wait until next spring to prove that I am truly the better driver. I hope anyways.
Region: NWR / Oregon
Car #: 88
Year : 95 Posts: 2000
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Sorry you couldn't make it today man. I'll give you something to think about over the winter... Bruce was right. We did about half a session together before I blew a shift badly, then I practiced what he showed me. 1:34.23
You're going to have to step up your game
I spent the following practice session and qual sessions practicing, driving over my head, trying different things to get into the 33's but I couldn't do better than 1:34.30 due to various screw ups here and there.
-------------------- Keith Novak (Will work for tires)
Region: NWR/Oregon; ICSCC
Car #: 70
Year : 1991 Posts: 1111
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Keith, I'm happy to hear of your breakthrough. Jim Boemler did the same to me 3/4 of the way through my first year racing, and it made a huge difference to my driving. Kudos to Bruce (and to you for learning)!
Region: NWR / Oregon
Car #: 88
Year : 95 Posts: 2000
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It's fun sliding the car! I found out tonight at dinner though my butt cheeks are sore as hell from clenching.
BTW...
BRUCE WILSON IS THE OFFICIAL 2010 OREGON REGION SCCA CHAMPION!!!
Way to go Bruce! Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. You all should have seen him changing his diff in the rain, wearing a t-shirt, jeans, and a big ole grin.
-------------------- Keith Novak (Will work for tires)
Region: NWR / Oregon
Car #: 88
Year : 95 Posts: 2000
Status: Offline
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Terrell,
If I could boil down what Bruce taught me into a couple of sound bites it would sound something like this:
1) Install a data acquisition unit. You’ll probably see your car is capable of going pretty damn fast if you let it and consistent lap times can be a bunch of fast sections and little mistakes in different places, all averaging each other out over a lap.
2) Sliding is a good thing and not necessarily a reason to dump off all your speed. A little throttle modulation can make the car gather itself up nicely if you’re not already too far gone, builds a ton of confidence that you’re not about to die, and is a whole lot of fun.
3) Going fast where you should be going slow, and slowing going slow where you should be going fast both make it very difficult to control the car and yield slow lap times.
Other than T12, my line wasn’t bad. T12 I was literally told I did completely wrong in all aspects. You and I drove the course pretty similarly. By my 2nd lap with Bruce, I was about .1 off my previous personal best, and it was a whole lot less dramatic. By the end of my first session, I was disappointed seeing my previous personal best on the screen. In the following sessions, when I’d see times close to my new personal best I’d think “Not a bad time considering all the screw-ups on that lap.”
-------------------- Keith Novak (Will work for tires)
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