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oem steve
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While I'm waiting for my return to racing after July, I'am considering doing some volunteer work to help support our racing. Seeing as I have never flagged or helped with an event can you give me some pointers. I'm planning on mostly helping at CMP and maybe Roebling Road.

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Kent Carter Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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Steve,

I think this is a great idea. Our club is really dependent and driven by volunteers. Working corners can be pretty educational, too. Ok, some basics:

Gear
1. Wear white from head to toe. Bring heavy gloves. Bring a hat!
2. Be prepared to the elements: sunscreen, sunglases, hot/cold, ear plugs, boots if mud is expected, etc. A loud whistle is amazingly useful!

You know the flags, but how to use them takes some training/practice. They will show you. Basics:
1. Don't hold the yellow flag so that it flaps in the breeze, gather and tuck it under your arm!
2. Display the flags big! Hold 'em high.
3. Display the blue flag early. If you think the faster car may reach them at this turn or the next, go ahead and show it. It's an advisory flag, just means look in your mirrors. If you display it and you are wrong, no big deal. If you don't display it and a guy doesn't see the overtaking car at the next corner....
4. Remember that you, as a driver, looks ahead. By the time some guys are getting near the corner station, they may be looking sideways at the exit of the turn, not straight ahead where the station is...

I'm sure others will chime in with better advice.

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Kent Carter Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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wow...
http://www.michiganturnmarshals.org/index.htm

Nicely done.

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oem steve
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I see where they allow a folding chair, is that to all corners? that was one of my worries since I've had trouble with my back I can't stand for long periods of time with out taking a break. The anatomy of a corner worker is too funny since I actually know that guy. I don't know if I'll make it to next weekends event at CMP, but I will try.

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http://ams.scca.com/netforum/eweb/DynamicPage...69-48e7-a593-86c36fe51c1c

this is a link to the F&C manual

cintibob
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I found it easier to put all the gear in a bucket with a top that seals so if it rains everything stays dry. And you can sit on the bucket to rest between races.the chair can be kept at main station in case they do not have seats there. Sebring has a wooden station at every corner that has seats and shade and flag men are across track or away from corner station. A poncho added to the list helps also you do not want to carry to much you will be walking alot to and fro so using the bucket for a seat reduces one item. The bucket I call a pickle bucket they are white and tall you can get them at Home depot. Try to wear white pants and shirt no reds or yellow for rain coat. Bring a small cooler for drinks as you may be away from main station, flagging, were the water is kept. Lastly a scanner and bug spray are nice addition but the whistle is important you can hear it over yelling to get someones attention.

oem steve
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can you use something to get out to the stations such as a small 4 wheeler? or do they drop you there

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Steve,

At CMP and RR you drive to the corners so whatever you need for comfort you can bring in your car. Kent hit the major points.

Here is another site with some good info:

http://www.yopics.net/Flaggin/

Thanks for comin out and playing on the other side of fence. Havin the brain of a driver at a corner can be helpful to get the view from the track, I think you'll have fun.

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oem steve
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thanks guys I'am actually looking forward to this, I always say at our body shop that the insurance appraisers should have to spend some time actually in a shop to see what really goes on in repairing a car. Now I will get a chance to see what goes on at the track from a different perspective. I have to get me some white pants and shirt now, so looks like a trip out to the nearest wal mart.

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Johnny D Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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Thanks for helping out.
Where I'm at, I beleive if you volunteer to be a corner worker, etc. you get free track time after a while.
J~

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You can get a discount off of your SCCA membership for each day you volunteer. You log the days worked in your account on Scca.com

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Flagging also has another benefit: you get an education about racecraft and you get to see how a variety of lines work (or don't) in short order, especially if you're the blue-flagger. Always try to be that guy.

Also, I learned that waving to the flaggers as you drive through a yellow, even if you never lift, is enough. [Wink]

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oem steve
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can you change corners with other workers during a break? maybe to see the different lines?

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Steve,

Usually you stay at the same corner all weekend but if you ask the flag chief he can move you around from day to day. Typically the weekend is get em out, get em in and move onto the next group... rarely are breaks scheduled.

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Tom's Double O Verified Driver
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Don't wear a yelow shirt. I remember a flag station where the corner worker was wearing a yellow shirt. After the race some drivers accused other drivers for passing under the yellow. It did almost look like there was a standing yellow at the station. LOL

Tom

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I was burned by that at one time. I slowed and another car blew by me. I couldn't accuse him of passing under the yellow shirt. As I recall, my incredible driving ability allowed me to re-pass later. Yeah, that's the way I remember it.
wheel

   

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