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mghenwood
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Hey guys, I am headed to the NJMP Driver School this afternoon and need to pickup some fuel for the car. Does NJMP have 94 octane fuel for purchase on site? Anywhere near by that has it available? Or should I just get some 93 at a local station?

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I would get the $30/gal fuel that Mike C. uses. Most certainly for Drivers School! [Big Grin]

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So 93 it is then.

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Buy 87 octane and save a few bucks. It is a drivers school.....

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You'll get more performance out of lower octane fuel sometimes (depends on teh fuel). The octane is added to prevent detonation, not to make it more "powerful". Its used in high performance cars because the temps and compression are often higher. I saw a nice bump on the dyno last time with 87 octane fuel over the higher octane gas from the same gas station.

That being said, the last thing you want is detonation, and offsetting the risk of that by using higher octane fuel and giving up a bit of power might be an OK compromise for some people.

There was a thread on this just recently.

Also, make sure you get gas from a busy gas station, the stuff that's been sitting in the bottom of someones tank for a month may have contaminants, water etc... learned that one the hard way.

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Take a look at this link;

http://www.streetrodstuff.com/Articles/Engine/Detonation/

Some great reading for those who don't understand the differences between detonation and pre-ingnition and the causes of both. It will also help you understand the need for different octane requiresments. Now the only trick is to figure out exactly what octane is correct for your engine and use.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gatoratty:
Buy 87 octane and save a few bucks. It is a drivers school.....

I disagree. If the engine is tuned for higher octane(timing advance, AFR, etc) running 87 could cause damage over time.

Running to high of an octane is a safer choice for your engine if you don't know what you need. Running the correct ooctane is best for power.

So if you don't know what you need, take the safe route and use 93.

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If our Miata engines are tuned to need more than 92-93 octane we are probably pushing the envelope for what they were designed for.

Although the OEM tune does only needs 87 octane and that should produce the best reults in that case.

Tom

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Compression ratio determines the level of octane needed to prevent detonation. Nobody here has a CR higher than stock do they? [Roll Eyes]

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quote:
Originally posted by d mathias:
Compression ratio determines the level of octane needed to prevent detonation. Nobody here has a CR higher than stock do they? [Roll Eyes]

c/r is not the only thing that determines octane requirements. If you advance the timing like we can on 1.6 to say 16-18 degrees and run leaner than stock AFR you'll need a higher octane fuel(slower more controlled burn) to prevent detonation.

I certainly hope nobody here has more than stock c/r

Tom

   

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