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Updates Any News

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In Pro-IT yesterday Cliff Brown and Jamie Tucker had a ding dong battle for 45 minutes. Jamie was leading on the last lap but lost it to Cliffie by a car length. Great race. Not sure about the rest of the finishers. I was out with bent tie rod after contact mid race.

In SM-X race today, Cliffie on pole. Very small field

In SM race today, Cliffie on pole as well. Decent field with Kopp, Tucker, Foster, Cottrell, Colledge, Brock and others

3-Hour ECR race on Sunday, no qualifying as yet.

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I believe the grid for todays race is,
Brown
Foster
Tucker
Kopp
So far it has been a great event with a lot of give and take between the SM cars. Our race will go off right before lunch.

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Tucker was fast I'd say. [Smile]

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SM:

Tucker
Brown
Cottrell

SSM:
Windsor
Fohl

SM2:
Heyl
Cross
Skolnick

SMX:
Steyn
Brown
Wechsler

SM5:
Cooper
Copeland
Wolfson

Congratulations to all!

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Jamie
Congrats, that is a big one!
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Heyl in sm2 was dqued for being. Underweight

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Those were from the prelim.

Nice 2nd Zack!

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Congrats to Jamie and Danny!

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Thanks Tom and the OPM guys for really putting me in the show this weekend. Car was spot on and really a joy to drive. Congrats to Jamie on the first ARRC win!

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I had an awesome time for my first time racing at atlanta and in the arrc. I would like to thank Mike Rossini and Rossini Racing for a top notch car and support. Also my dad, playseat simulators, piloti shoes, and iracing for coming out with a mx5. Shoot out to Eric Foss for the coaching on iracing..it paid off! See everyone at the spec miata shootout at carolina motorsports park next month!

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What is SM2 and SMX?

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I just got home and wanted to thank everyone for all of their help and support. The ARRC went well and I was lucky to bring my car home in 1st but it would not have been possible if it were not for so many drivers that have helped me along the way. Andrew Von C, Danny Steyn, Cliff Brown, Chip Vanvurst, Jeff Labounty, Pat Sandlin, Drago, and many others have taught me a lot over the past few years. I also wanted to thank Autotechniks for all of their support and providing me a very fast race car and Tom Fowler and the OPM guys who are always there when I need something (as I did this weekend). For those that want to know there was a post race inspection that consisted of checking the weight, plate, compression ratio (with a whistler), intake and exhaust manifolds, they pulled the head and removed a couple valves, inspected the flywheel, inspected the differential, cams, cam gears, bore, stroke, and looked at a few other things that I cannot remember right now. The tech inspection took about 2.5 hours and I was lucky to have Cory from Autotechniks there to do the work (it was beyond my skills) They also checked for fuel the day before. The Atlanta region did a first class job so a special thanks to them as well.

[ 11-07-2010, 07:21 AM: Message edited by: Jamie Tucker ]

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Jamie Tucker drove and awesome race in SM. Was able to watch the entire race, and from my vantage point at T1 he not only appeared to be fast but also the most consistent.

Cliffie Brown had a great start but slide wide in T1 and had to back out of it letting Foster by. Foster was a threat early on, leading for several laps until his alternator belt let go and he overheated.

Kopp had a tremendous race, and was a serious threat running 2nd for most of the race in his 1.6, right on Jamies tale and ahead of Cliffie, but his master cylinder let go and like Foster he had to retire.

Finishing order was Tucker, Brown, Cottrell, College, Brock. At impound Cliffie was dropped out for passing under Yellow, so the final order was

1. Tucker
2. Cottrell
3. College
4. Brock

Great drive by all, and as mentioned above, Jamie - CONGRATS - this is a BIG ONE.

As much as I dislike the idea of SM2, there was a great race back in the 1.6/1.8 field. Craig Heyl finished first, but was DQ'd as he still had his car at the old weight (25 under) but alos had the old restrictor. That moved Alan Cross up to 1st, and Zack up to 2nd. Joseph Strong finished 3rd. Congrats to all. I watched Cross's video the previous day and watched the race, and man, he can really hit the marks, lap after lap..... well deserved.


In SMX (for the guys that ran the Runoffs and still wanted to run the ARRC) we had a 4 car race, along with the 2 SM5 Playboy Cup cars. Really disappointing turnout, but TOTALLY understandable - we want to run with our buddies.

Cliffie drove the wheels of his car and I stayed on his bumper for 12 laps, at which point he put it off at T1 kissing the wall. I had it all to myself and took the inaugural SMX win and set a new SMX lap record of 1.42.629. Weather was great, car was crisp, my Rossini engine was stellar, and the lack of restrictor made it even faster.

thanks to Tom Folwer and the entire crew for the work on the car and getting it back after the ProIT damage. Thanks to Rossini for a great engine and to Traqmate for the data.


As to the need for SM2?????, its pretty obvious that the 1.6 can run up front even at Road Atlanta. Kopp was a contender, running in 2nd place until his m/c went, and ran a best time of 1.44.18 in his 1.6. Only Tucker at 1.43.6 and Brown at 1.44.13 were faster in their 99's.

So there we were SM, SM2, SSM, SMX, and SM5. Nothing more boring than watching a 4 car race like ours. Also splitting a class into SM2 when 1.6 cars can run up front....... I just dont get it. SCCA has too many classes already, and I dont think this is going to help the situation at all......we really need to make sure that we have ONE class that is as EQUAL as possible.

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There was a great battle in ITA. Rowdy Price drove the wheels off his ITA Miata. Lead changes between Joe Moser and him on half the laps. Finished second to the Honda. Best race I got to watch.

Thanks to everyone at Windsor Customs for a great car and support.

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Any idea why Brian was dropped to last in the ITA race?

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Nope. Real sorry to hear that.
They must have gone through T1 door to door 3 or 4 times, including the first lap. Both full throttle 200' before the apex. Inspiring!
Wish I had an in car vid.

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It was a mechanical protest on some repositioned items in the engine bay. Protest was upheld and he was dropped to last.

They are considering an appeal but that is all I know at this time. I have swapped a couple messages with Bret tonight.

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In order to gain room to turn the intake system and run it along the right side of the motor, they made several mods in the headlight area. They repositioned the headlight motor and cut, repositioned and eliminated several sheet metal parts. This allowed the air filter to be positioned at the right side firewall, a much cooler area than anywhere on the left side.

They also chose to run without the undertray type spoiler they had, but don't know the reasoning for that. Sad to see someone get penalized. It has happened to me once and it's no fun.

Jim Epting

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Congrats to Jamie, and Danny.

One of these days I like to make that race with Shawn.

Looks like a fun track.

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Congratulations to all!

Especially to Craig Heyl (great run, look into keeping up with the rule changes!) - must have been the trailer.

And most especially to my old codriver Joseph Strong for a solid third. Looks like you ran a great race especially since you are hardly ever in the car.

Another shout out to steve jones for his midpack finish in sm2. Looks like faster steve showed up this weekend.

While I have my own reservations about sm2 ( for much different reasons than mr. Steyn) it appears the racers like it and in the end, that will determine the success of the class.

Sorry I missed it this year ( first time in 5 or 6 years)

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quote:
Originally posted by Danny Steyn:
So there we were SM, SM2, SSM, SMX, and SM5. Nothing more boring than watching a 4 car race like ours. Also splitting a class into SM2 when 1.6 cars can run up front....... I just dont get it. SCCA has too many classes already, and I dont think this is going to help the situation at all......we really need to make sure that we have ONE class that is as EQUAL as possible.

Maybe we can allow ALL race in SM next year and those that feel they can't compete with the fastest guys run SM2? That's is what we are doing now anyway? [Frown] If that were the case, I think you would get even more drivers than just the Runoffs drivers. People want to race the best, not the best of whats left. [twocents]
Jim

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quote:
Originally posted by Drago:
quote:
Originally posted by Danny Steyn:
So there we were SM, SM2, SSM, SMX, and SM5. Nothing more boring than watching a 4 car race like ours. Also splitting a class into SM2 when 1.6 cars can run up front....... I just dont get it. SCCA has too many classes already, and I dont think this is going to help the situation at all......we really need to make sure that we have ONE class that is as EQUAL as possible.

Maybe we can allow ALL race in SM next year and those that feel they can't compete with the fastest guys run SM2? That's is what we are doing now anyway? [Frown] If that were the case, I think you would get even more drivers than just the Runoffs drivers. People want to race the best, not the best of whats left. [twocents]
Jim

I am sure there is more to it but that is how I feel as well. I know that when I look at the entry list and I see the Pombos, Steyn, Brown, Van Vurst, Von C and others I get excited because I know I am going to race the best and I will have a battle on my hands: which is what it is all about.

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"So there we were SM, SM2, SSM, SMX, and SM5. Nothing more boring than watching a 4 car race like ours. Also splitting a class into SM2 when 1.6 cars can run up front....... I just dont get it. SCCA has too many classes already, and I dont think this is going to help the situation at all......we really need to make sure that we have ONE class that is as EQUAL as possible."

I still think we should add SM classes, like SMM for SM Me and SMU, for, well you get the idea. Then everyone can have their own race and everyone can be a winner. Call the whole series SM Special.

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quote:
Originally posted by Drago:
quote:
Originally posted by Danny Steyn:
So there we were SM, SM2, SSM, SMX, and SM5. Nothing more boring than watching a 4 car race like ours. Also splitting a class into SM2 when 1.6 cars can run up front....... I just dont get it. SCCA has too many classes already, and I dont think this is going to help the situation at all......we really need to make sure that we have ONE class that is as EQUAL as possible.

Maybe we can allow ALL race in SM next year and those that feel they can't compete with the fastest guys run SM2? That's is what we are doing now anyway? [Frown] If that were the case, I think you would get even more drivers than just the Runoffs drivers. People want to race the best, not the best of whats left. [twocents]
Jim

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quote:
Originally posted by Jim Epting:
In order to gain room to turn the intake system and run it along the right side of the motor, they made several mods in the headlight area. They repositioned the headlight motor and cut, repositioned and eliminated several sheet metal parts. This allowed the air filter to be positioned at the right side firewall, a much cooler area than anywhere on the left side.

They also chose to run without the undertray type spoiler they had, but don't know the reasoning for that. Sad to see someone get penalized. It has happened to me once and it's no fun.

Jim Epting

Boy Jim... sounds like you wrote the protest, not some OPM guy that has never seen it before or was that ED YORK.....& mabe you need to get your eyes checked before you make a statement about parts being cut off...... [Wink]

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Jim nothing was cut, modified or removed to install the intake on the right side of the engine bay. The fact that you knew what the protest was lead us to know who wsa behind it since we did not tell anyone at inpound. There was no and i repeat no performance advantage as we dynoed both intakes. In fact there is more room on that side so I am not sure why you you said that. When I started racing in 95 someone looked and found something on my car that was not legal and was a performance item. They, being a real man canme to me and asked me to fix it and because of that I did fix it and I did and was not upset at all. We went over that car from top to bottom before the arrc to make sure that we had no problems at all.

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If there is no performance increase, why was it done?

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easier to fit since there is more room.

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quote:
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easier to fit since there is more room.

You brought a car that was non compliant to one of the biggest races of the year and it is someone else's fault for protesting you? Then on top of it you claim there was no advantage to running the intake to the other side of the motor? Nice!

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quote:
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easier to fit since there is more room.

you're telling me that every person in SM has trouble fitting their intake?

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this is an ITA car not a SM car, rules are not the same.

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quote:
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They also chose to run without the undertray type spoiler they had, but don't know the reasoning for that. Sad to see someone get penalized. It has happened to me once and it's no fun.

Jim Epting

Actually the undertray was in the dirt drivers left at turn 7 after a drive off. It was retrieved by someone from EV a couple of sessions later.

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quote:
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quote:
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They also chose to run without the undertray type spoiler they had, but don't know the reasoning for that. Sad to see someone get penalized. It has happened to me once and it's no fun.

Jim Epting

Actually the undertray was in the dirt drivers left at turn 7 after a drive off. It was retrieved by someone from EV a couple of sessions later.
The trays took a beating this week! One of mine was left in the turn 5.

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Brian's run in the ITA race was amazing. The guy works to whole different set of physics than the rest of us. It's a shame that such a season ended this way.

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Just couldn't resist... RP please remember that the dyno is stationary and your performance gains would only come on track when wind and temps are very different than a dyno. Good job in tech as parity is what makes this stuff more fun anyway.

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Just a further update on the ARRC weekend

On Sunday I ran the 3-Hour enduro with Tom Fowler co-driving in my car. I ran first and last stints and Tom did the middle stint.

We completed 96 laps, finished 3rd overall and first in SM, one lap down on the Robertsons Porsche and behind Tyler Wolfsons MX-5 car.

Big congrats to Craig Heyl for winning the SM2 class, and Guy Sisson for his 2nd place finish

What is most remarkable about his particular enduro is that I ran the fastest lap on lap 95 (2nd last lap) and ran a time of 1.43.463 - my fastest EVER SM time at Road Atlanta and this was without a draft, and it was even faster than Jamie's FRL in the SM ARRC. ARE YOU KIDDING ME - on lap 95!!!

Tom took it easy on my car but I drove like a sprint race. 28 laps in the 1.44's!!!!! Damn these cars are amazing. Car was stellar, engine was awesome, but tires started blistering towards the end.


(I did run a 1.42.6 in SMX trim - no plate, and tucked behind Cliffie)

Lets face it - these SM cars are friggin awesome. All around us cars were retiring with mechanical faults, dropping parts, shedding exhausts, blowing engines. We were able to run with some decent ITA Miatas that would kill us on the straights but we would kill them in the twistys.

You just have to love this class!

Thanks to Tom, Tim, Mike, Ryan, and all the gang at OPM for the support this weekend. Thanks to Mike Rossini for being there to help out and to Ron at Traqmate.

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Brian's run in the ITA race was amazing. The guy works to whole different set of physics than the rest of us. It's a shame that such a season ended this way.

Oh I'm not letting this get me down at all! To think this part would have changed any outcome in any race all year is just not true.....lol [yep]

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"So there we were SM, SM2, SSM, SMX, and SM5. Nothing more boring than watching a 4 car race like ours. Also splitting a class into SM2 when 1.6 cars can run up front....... I just dont get it. SCCA has too many classes already, and I dont think this is going to help the situation at all......we really need to make sure that we have ONE class that is as EQUAL as possible."

I still think we should add SM classes, like SMM for SM Me and SMU, for, well you get the idea. Then everyone can have their own race and everyone can be a winner. Call the whole series SM Special.

wheel

What you said is true but extremely out of context. It is not SCCA and Butch who wanted all those classes and I suspect you want see it again.

SM (no national drivers allowed, they run pro it only)

SSM, regional champ class

SM5, regional 2006+ champ class (unless we put them in SM, fine with me)

That is my 2 cents.

The driving was great as usual, congrats a to all!

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It was a mechanical protest on some repositioned items in the engine bay. Protest was upheld and he was dropped to last.

They are considering an appeal but that is all I know at this time. I have swapped a couple messages with Bret tonight.

Now I know what the "headlight motor" question was for.

Those are good guys, sh&% happens.

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What tires was everyone on? Was it open or RA1?
Jim

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quote:
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[QUOTE]SM (no national drivers allowed, they run pro it only)



As you know... SM natonal drivers can't race, but often many pro drivers from various ranks can, along with many national drivers who win regularly in nationals? I understand the idea of the regional championship, but every year it has been won by a pro or national driver since 2006( probably since it's inception depending on your definition orf pro/National driver) Never has been won by a regional driver, never will. The motive is pure, but the goal is not met. Competitive drivers don't want to come and race in an also ran class like Pro It and the Enduro. Not to say they arent competitive, but they all want the ARRC win, the big one.

SM for whoever wants to race in a legal car, SM2 regional championship as it was intended. Just my [twocents]

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Well, I'm only gonna post this time, then I'm done with this topic. I don't see an internet peeing contest as a good way to resolve anything. It just inflames feelings and gets everyone over excited. I do understand why the RP folks are upset, I was mighty upset when I got penalized on a tech matter back in my ancient past (probably when Bret was still in high school). I know it hurts.

I think everyone who knows the underhood geometry of a first gen Miata knows, or can easily check, there is insufficient room in the vicinity of the throttle body to make a 180 degree turn of and insulated approximately 3 inch diameter intake tube - resulting in a highly desirable intake point at the right side firewall. This is a desirable location because it is on the cool corner of the engine compartment, away from radiator airflow and away from the exhaust manifold. Unfortunately the headlight motor, the throttle body, throttle bellcrank, a relay bracket, and several pieces of sheet metal are in the way of the required turn at the throttle body. I don't know the exact details obviously, but it doesn't really matter cause I'm not the guy making the judgement - it's the tech steward. If they got it wrong, then obviously their ruling should be appealed.

One more time, the OPM guy didn't make the final call -- it was the tech steward, probably Sue Rothel. If it is wrong, appeal.

I agree with you on the man-to-man informal resolution point, but that requires some knowledge of what is going on. The hood on the car was never open in a public setting during the entire season, until after the very last race in the tech shed at Summit Pt. - kinda late to have that man-to-man talk.

I've watched Brian drive and like everyone else, I can only admire his ability and car control. The kid has the reflexes and athletic ability of a top line tennis player and anyone who doesn't see that obviously doesn't know race car drivers.

Jim E.

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Joey Atterbury's SM record still standing?

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Yes, as it turns out my first win suffered at the hands of my own lack of double checking the rules for my '94. I ran the SM2 ARRC on the 45mm restrictor and old weight. Then to run the best race I've ever had, only to find out the weight changed mid year. I came in empty and 20 under. I surrendered the flag to Alan.

Alan, Jason, Guy, Joseph and I all ran the sprint close and clean the whole race. Painful to have to give up the win for not checking Fastrack, but live and learn.

Then Sunday with a weight change and the 47mm restrictor, I came back in the Enduro. Had a great race with Guy and all the SM's. And overall good weekend.

Still kicking myself for Saturday however.....

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by JIM DANIELS:
[QUOTE]SM (no national drivers allowed, they run pro it only)



As you know... SM natonal drivers can't race, but often many pro drivers from various ranks can, along with many national drivers who win regularly in nationals? I understand the idea of the regional championship, but every year it has been won by a pro or national driver since 2006( probably since it's inception depending on your definition orf pro/National driver) Never has been won by a regional driver, never will. The motive is pure, but the goal is not met. Competitive drivers don't want to come and race in an also ran class like Pro It and the Enduro. Not to say they arent competitive, but they all want the ARRC win, the big one.

SM for whoever wants to race in a legal car, SM2 regional championship as it was intended. Just my [twocents]

I agree with that, for it to be something special it needs to include all.

I want to race the top Runoffs guys but don't want to go to the Runoffs and I'm sure some of you want to race the pro guys. Fix that and we have a real shootout!

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Drago:
quote:
Originally posted by JIM DANIELS:
[QUOTE]SM (no national drivers allowed, they run pro it only)



As you know... SM natonal drivers can't race, but often many pro drivers from various ranks can, along with many national drivers who win regularly in nationals? I understand the idea of the regional championship, but every year it has been won by a pro or national driver since 2006( probably since it's inception depending on your definition orf pro/National driver) Never has been won by a regional driver, never will. The motive is pure, but the goal is not met. Competitive drivers don't want to come and race in an also ran class like Pro It and the Enduro. Not to say they arent competitive, but they all want the ARRC win, the big one.

SM for whoever wants to race in a legal car, SM2 regional championship as it was intended. Just my [twocents]

I agree with that, for it to be something special it needs to include all.

I want to race the top Runoffs guys but don't want to go to the Runoffs and I'm sure some of you want to race the pro guys. Fix that and we have a real shootout!

Word [Wink]

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^^^^^^^
THATS WHAT WE WANT!

I doubt that I have won a more HOLLOW title than the one ARRC SMX one I got on Saturday. (sorry Cliffie - no offense - I am sure you understand)

I dont want to be the best of the 4 car field. I would rather fight for 10th in the 70 car field.

Dont split them - JOIN THEM!

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Am I wrong in saying this is an SCCA ruling and not a decision by anyone at the ARRC? My understanding is that the SCCA will only sanction SM at the ARRC if it doesn't include Runoff drivers and this year they made an exception that Runoffs participants can join in but only in a different class (hence SMX)?

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The sanction request comes from the Atlanta region. SCCA approves the sanction based on event criteria from the GCR. The region can add, subtract, or create region only classes (like SM2, SM5, SMX) even if no such class exists in SCCA (like allowing IT7, Spec E30, Honda Challenge from NASA). The ARRC gained its notoriety because it was supposed to be the runoffs for the people who didn't qualify or compete in the runoffs. Over the years the economy and car counts have required the region to allow an expanded field. Nothing to do with SCCA National office, the BOD, or the CRB.

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