Region: NASA TX
Car #: 16
Year : 1990 Posts: 135
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Someone bring out a 90-93 1.6L with a stock airbox and race me in SSM puh-lease!!! (I'll gladly take the beating just to help start SSM here in Texas lol)
Region: SW - Houston
Car #: 6
Year : 99, 96 Posts: 2262
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quote:Originally posted by Mike Bell: Someone bring out a 90-93 1.6L with a stock airbox and race me in SSM puh-lease!!! (I'll gladly take the beating just to help start SSM here in Texas lol)
Should just let the 99s race in SSM under the new SM rules..... LOL!
-------------------- Blake Clements
PhillipsRacePrep/SP Induction Systems/East Street Racing/MiataCage.com/Carbotech/WBR Graphics
Region: NASA Texas
Car #: 8
Year : 92 Posts: 697
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by Mike Bell: Someone bring out a 90-93 1.6L with a stock airbox and race me in SSM puh-lease!!! (I'll gladly take the beating just to help start SSM here in Texas lol)
I have a few stock boxs if anybody need me to bring one let me know
-------------------- William Keeling a.k.a. Willie the Tard
Region: Southwest
Car #: 22
Year : 92' Posts: 296
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by Willie the Tard:
quote:Originally posted by Mike Bell: Someone bring out a 90-93 1.6L with a stock airbox and race me in SSM puh-lease!!! (I'll gladly take the beating just to help start SSM here in Texas lol)
I have a few stock boxs if anybody need me to bring one let me know
If its as simple as throwing the stock intake on, then I have a car to rent if someone needs a 1.6. Car is fast ask Mike Bell, set up by the JP3.
Region: SW
Car #: 40
Year : 1991 Posts: 49
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by MPR22:
quote:Originally posted by Willie the Tard:
quote:Originally posted by Mike Bell: Someone bring out a 90-93 1.6L with a stock airbox and race me in SSM puh-lease!!! (I'll gladly take the beating just to help start SSM here in Texas lol)
I have a few stock boxs if anybody need me to bring one let me know
If its as simple as throwing the stock intake on, then I have a car to rent if someone needs a 1.6. Car is fast ask Mike Bell, set up by the JP3.
Would probably take more than an air box for most 1.6s (Weight = 2300lbs, Spark plugs = NGK BKR6E-11, Ignition wires = stock NGK, requires Mazda Motorsports exhaust, etc.,)
Region: Southwest
Car #: 22
Year : 92' Posts: 296
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by Toby Linder:
quote:Originally posted by MPR22:
quote:Originally posted by Willie the Tard:
quote:Originally posted by Mike Bell: Someone bring out a 90-93 1.6L with a stock airbox and race me in SSM puh-lease!!! (I'll gladly take the beating just to help start SSM here in Texas lol)
I have a few stock boxs if anybody need me to bring one let me know
If its as simple as throwing the stock intake on, then I have a car to rent if someone needs a 1.6. Car is fast ask Mike Bell, set up by the JP3.
Would probably take more than an air box for most 1.6s (Weight = 2300lbs, Spark plugs = NGK BKR6E-11, Ignition wires = stock NGK, requires Mazda Motorsports exhaust, etc.,)
Seems easy enough, add weight, exhaust and plug wires. Of course you would have to be rather tall and broad to fit well in my seat, but that can be overcome.
Region: NASA TX
Car #: 16
Year : 1990 Posts: 135
Status: Offline
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As Toby correctly pointed out I oversimplified the SM to SSM conversion - but I did it out of a genuine desire to see MORE 90-93's come get their mojo going against me and may the better driver win
I'm sure somewhere there are plenty of stock exhaust parts laying around the shop!
Region: NASA TX
Car #: 16
Year : 1990 Posts: 135
Status: Offline
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I may be misreading Michael but the stock exhaust is ok however you need to run the Mazda Muffler part 000-06-5425.
3.1.5. Exhaust System 3.1.5.1. Catalytic converter may be removed and replaced with the replacement pipe part # 0000-06-5423. All other exhaust components shall remain OEM stock except for the required installation of Mazda Motorsports exhaust part #0000-06-5425.
Region: Southwest
Car #: 22
Year : 92' Posts: 296
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by Mike Bell: I may be misreading Michael but the stock exhaust is ok however you need to run the Mazda Muffler part 000-06-5425.
3.1.5. Exhaust System 3.1.5.1. Catalytic converter may be removed and replaced with the replacement pipe part # 0000-06-5423. All other exhaust components shall remain OEM stock except for the required installation of Mazda Motorsports exhaust part #0000-06-5425.
That is the part i was reading as you had to have the Motorspors exhaust. If we ran a stock muffler, i think it would be out of compliance.
Region: Southwest
Car #: 22
Year : 92' Posts: 296
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by Mike Bell: I'm sure that NASA TX will work with us Michael, I'd rather compete against you with your stock muffler than have you skip the event
Just got word from Dave Balingit, that if someone was to rent my 1.6 we could run it with a stock exhaust. Thanks for the help Dave.
On that note, Dave has been excellent on answering questions about upcoming events and working out the issues with NASA Texas.
Region: NASA TX
Car #: 16
Year : 1990 Posts: 135
Status: Offline
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Guys, Dave can't post here but he asked me to forward the following about SSM exhausts:
quote:Can't reply on the specmiata formus, but we have raised the question of stock OEM exhaust on SSM. It will be looked at to reword, so for MSRH please feel free to have anyone interested use the OEM exhaust vs the mandated MazdaSpeed exhaust as the original exhaust meets the intent.
_________________ Dave Balingit NASA-RM Regional Dir NASA-TX Regional Dir National Championships Dir
Region: SoCal
Car #: 13
Year : 1992 Posts: 847
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by Mike Bell: I'm sure that NASA TX will work with us Michael, I'd rather compete against you with your stock muffler than have you skip the event
Guys; Dave has been all over it... He's a good guy, give him some time and I know it will get sorted.
As far as the OEM exhaust from head-to-tail goes, technically it is not the spec part but I'd suppose it does not breathe as well as the Mazda Comp (0000-06-5425). Personally I see no problem with it for the first few events... After then I'd expect the rules to be more accepting of it
If someone needs an Air Box, Snorkel & K&N Filter I have a few sitting around for cheap: SSM Air Box set-up
-------------------- Thanks, John Mueller NASA SM National Director http://www.Weekend-Racer.com #13 "Tiger Miata" - 2009 SoCal SSM Champion
Region: SW - Houston
Car #: 6
Year : 99, 96 Posts: 2262
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by Trevor McC: Mike; You're right, we need to make sure that everyone is registered. If we don't get more entries, we may get combined with another race group.
When you get that 37mm plate, you are going to be hoping for another run group
-------------------- Blake Clements
PhillipsRacePrep/SP Induction Systems/East Street Racing/MiataCage.com/Carbotech/WBR Graphics
Region: Texas
Car #: 90
Year : 1999 Posts: 49
Status: Offline
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FYI 2011 rules regarding Anti-Roll Bars:
K-SPEC-M5-SUSP (1990-93) - Eibach kit - front / rear bars 0000-04-5302-EB - Front 24mm Adjustable - Rear 15mm Adjustable
K-SPEC-M5-SUS8 (1994-97) - Eibach kit - front / rear bars 0000-04-5303-EB - Front 27mm non-Adjustable or adjustable 24mm front bar from Eibach kit 0000-04-5302-EB may be used. - However, the 24mm must be used for the duration of the NASA Nationals event. - Rear 15mm Adjustable
K-SPEC-M5-SUSP98 (1999-up) - Eibach kit – front / rear bars 000-04-5304-EB - Front 27mm non-Adjustable - Rear 15mm Adjustable
Region: Southwest
Car #: 22
Year : 92' Posts: 296
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by Trevor McC: Just got an update from Myron and NASA regarding January NASA MSRH Race:
The 37mm plates are in the manufacturing process and will probably not be available in time for the first event.
Proposed rules: - 1.6 cars will run with the 2011 rules - No RP and 2285 lb - 1.8 NA cars will run with the 2011 rules - 45mm RP and 2340 lb - 99-00 cars will run with 2010 rules - 41mm RP and 2450
Are these rules confirmed for this weekend? - All cars are allowed open timing and adj. fuel pressure
DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER, just trying to provide information...
Region: NASA TX
Car #: 16
Year : 1990 Posts: 135
Status: Offline
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NASA accepts SCCA licenses, has done so for several years now:
From the 2011 CCR: 14.1.4 Current SCCA license holders Regional, National, Pro: 1. Submit a copy of their current SCCA license. 2. Submit a copy of their state driver’s license. 3. Submit the appropriate license fee. 4. Submit an Application for Competition License
Region: Southwest
Car #: 11
Year : 99 and 93 Posts: 347
Status: Offline
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No video but I do have some data. My fast lap this weekend in my 1.6 was 0.20 seconds faster than my 99 which I ran at the same track in November. I know running back to back on the same day would yield better comparisons but I only have a 1 car trailer. Weather was very similar in November.
Bottom line both cars are close in lap times at MSRH so it will be intersting to see the effects on the 99's lap time under the new NASA rules. My guess is a loss of 0.30 per lap at MSRH, probably less at faster tracks.
-------------------- Gale Corley 99 SM GRE Super Deluxe 93 SM GRE Jr. Deluxe
Region: Houston; SWDIV
Car #: 15
Year : 99 Posts: 680
Status: Offline
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quote:Originally posted by trimless1: No video but I do have some data. My fast lap this weekend in my 1.6 was 0.20 seconds faster than my 99 which I ran at the same track in November. I know running back to back on the same day would yield better comparisons but I only have a 1 car trailer. Weather was very similar in November.
Bottom line both cars are close in lap times at MSRH so it will be intersting to see the effects on the 99's lap time under the new NASA rules. My guess is a loss of 0.30 per lap at MSRH, probably less at faster tracks.
Gale,
Wouldn't it be more of a time loss at faster tracks where HP is more of a factor than the quantity of turns/mile at MSRH? I was thinking the NASA rules would really hurt the 99 at places like TMS, RA, the longer tracks
So this race the 99s were in the 2010 rules trim?
-------------------- James York
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