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Brandon Bunkley Verified Driver
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I am looking for a new camera for the car and I am not looking to spend more than $300 or close to that. I have been looking at the Sony Handycam DCR-HC38 MiniDV Camcorder has anybody used that? Or which camera in that price range is good. I am looking for the obvious ease of use good picture and sound durable and of course ease of uploading to the computer.I already have the I/O Port mount in the car. I am going to get something in the next couple of weeks.Looking for a little input. I am sure that this been over and over but due to technology here and there things may have changed since last time. When I read the reviews on the different sites none of them use the cameras in a race car at speed and all that goes in the car and this will be the sole reason for this camera. I have another one for family stuff but it is the mini dvd and won't work for the car.
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Brandon:

Howdy:

I haven't used either of these yet, but I have an order in for the Go Pro Hero Cam. Mostly because it looks like I can easily use it for snowboarding, the car, and just general fun without a super high cost of ownership. Their site has some sample video, and a few of the guys have posted some here.

http://www.goprocamera.com/

There is another bullet style camera that looks kind of cool, and has some better specs on it than the go pro. Can anyone give a review?

http://www.vholdr.com/shoot/camera/overview?q=shoot.php


Also, someone out there is using the Aiptek. Check this forum for some ideas and reviews and sample: http://forum.specmiata.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/3/246.html#000000

Not to be that guy, but there are a lot of forums on this, run a quick search and see what you are looking for. you did allude to this in your post, so no worries. This is a pretty good one.

http://forum.specmiata.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/26/580/2.html

I think the three I posted are the cheap/quality ones out there, but I'm sure other people have better opinions than I do as I haven't actually tested these.

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Richard Pressman Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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We started using the DCR-HC36 last year as a replacement for our older Hi-8 Sony. Price was the big factor in deciding on that camera. Looking back, I should have spent a bit more to get one with a video input jack so I could use a lipstick cam. Otherwise the I don't have any complaints. I got what I paid for.

Picture quality is just OK. Image quality is sharp enough but colors are a bit flat. Adjustments on the camera are somewhat lacking.

Battery life from the included battery will cover any sprint race but you'll need to recharge before the next session to be sure. They make a car adapter but it's relatively pricey.

It will accept wide angle lenses, but they're not really needed.

So far, about eight weekends, there have been no reliability issues.

Image quality when recording to the flash card is degraded to the point that you wouldn't want to post it online or use it as a finished product, but it's good enough to use for evaluating practice sessions or if you just don't care about the quality and want the easiest way to load it to a computer. -- that's another thing -- next camera I buy will have better flash card resolution. It's not hard uploading from digital tape but it has to be done in real time, which can be a pain in the ass.

I guess to make a long story short -- I'd buy a different (more expensive) camera next time around but for the price point I pretty much got all I could. I assume the HC-38 is pretty similar to my HC-36.

Zack Steinkamp Verified Driver
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For $300 you can get a lipstick cam, powered mics, and an Aiptek A-HD to record the video and audio. The Aiptek unit is a HD solid state camcorder, but can also record standard def from its Aux-In.

The Aiptek writes H.264 (MPEG-4) to a SD card, so getting stuff to the computer is a drag and drop experience.

Here's a link to a scaled down and recompressed video from that setup:
http://thenobot.org/video/watch.php?20080111-thill_team_s5.mov

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Tom's Double O Verified Driver
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I ended up buying a camcorder that records to a chip (SDHC). I have not had chance use it in the car, but I do like using it for other purposes. The Canon TX1 is a 7MP still camera that is also a 720 HD video recorder. It also has a very good 10x optical zoom. While video taping, you can take stills at the same time. And the 10x optical zoom is functional while video recording. Come is a very tiny package which allows you to take it everwhere.

It records in MPEG which requires a lot of memory. This is good as each of the 30fps is an actual picture. The bad is that it will only record 14 minutes on 4 gig at the highest quality 720 setting. Although the camera will take higher capacity cards(I have 8 gig), one session recording will stop when it hits 4 gig. Since I really don't need or want 720 for the in car. I will use the highest 640 recording mode in the car. It should give me a 1/2 hour when it hits the 4 gig. Then I will still have 4 gig for the next session without downloading.

MPEG is very easy to work with, just cosumes a lot of memory. But the overall quality is very good for a hybryd camera like this. Low light recording aren't the best, but that is true for most small pocket size cameras.

If you are looking for a camera that can do it all, stills, video, portability and in-car, this could be a good choice. Cost about $370

Here's a link;
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-PowerShot-Digital-O...000NK6DZI/ref=pd_sxp_f_pt

I will find out how good it is in car next month.

Tom

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I use a Sony DCR-HC26 and it shoots great video's,it has everything you will need for good video's.

The only problem I have is,my computer doesn't transfer the video's well.It's a computer problem not the mini cam,so make sure your computer can transfer them or look for a cam.that has mem.stick.

The only thing other then a cam.I would get a wide-angle lens so you can see your wheel and hands.I got a 0.5x wide-angle lens and works great and clear.

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Muda Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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I have used cheap miniDV cameras for several years now. I picked up a Sharp Z3, remanufactured on EBay for $75. and now have another one hooked up to my computer so I don't have to remove it from the car. Light & compact. Wired it directly into the car and have used a lipstick cam with it as well. The only limiting factor is the 60 minute run time for each cartridge. Firewire makes editing easy. Excellent quality at a very low price. Although, the solid state units are just beginning to become attractive.

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Brandon Bunkley Verified Driver
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What about Samsung SC-MX10 Digital Camcorder. I have not used any Samsung products so not sure how well they hold up. How important is the HD version? I found it for around $250.

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We are using two Multi-View Quattro XG's with eight total camera:
http://datatoys.com/quadcamsys.htm
recording in two full channels to an XM-DVR Pro;
http://datatoys.com/mdvr2.htm

Here is some video of Val driving with the 4 cams;
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SH7E0DIozUY

Last night I set up the other 4 cameras to be suspension cams, we will see how much those 99 hats help [Wink]

Video from the June Sprints soon!

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Here's another one for the list.

Sony NSC-GC1

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet...uctId=8198552921665246485

My wife bought it on sale for $100 for the kids to make movies for school. Of course, I got the job of making it work. It's a very simple CMOS camera and camcorder. But it will do 640 x 480 @30fps. And with a 4GB Pro Duo chip it will record at this high resolution for 2.5 hours. The chips are <$20 on EBay. It only weighs 7 oz. and has a flat bottom that is very stable in the mount. It also has stabilization software and seems to perform well with vibration. The only drawback is that it records in MP4 which uploads perfectly to YouTube or Google Video but doesn't sit well with most editors. A converter like the AVS suite does a good job of putting it into an editable format both quickly and without loss of quality. A 1 gig 30 minute file takes about 15 minutes. It also comes with a rudimentary editor that works with the mp4 format.

Check out the quality here and click the "watch in high quality" link under the lower right hand corner of the video box. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTpfAZc89sU

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