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Author Topic: Spec Miata on Forza Motorsport 3
jj15ball
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Haven't figured out how to post a photo yet. Here's what my car looks like.

http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/game/gallery/detail/default.htm?photoid=4284895

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Jason Ball

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DES4's gamertag is Cheeto23.

And those times that Eric set are with the Manual/w clutch. It's MUCH faster than just manual trans.

The rear spring rate is 325, not 350.

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Foss, do you think you can post your fast times in manual w/out clutch configuration so we can have some sort of benchmark?

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I raced everyone the other night and I found the clutch to be worth about a second on lap time... I was struggling most with the braking though. I would say clutch is worth .5 per lap for acceleration.

Mike Saferacer car coming soon [Smile] I have it done, but with ugly SAFERACER graphics I downloaded from someone online [Smile] I will make some better ones and post them...

Also, I made the Tim Buck for President stickers from the Runoffs 08 they are on my storefront [Smile]

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Eric
What do you mean teh clutch is worth 1 second a lap? Like vs auto? You know I am no sim racer [Smile]

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There are three modes to Forza:

Automatic- the game does everything

Manual- you shift but the game cuts throttle on upshifts and blips or doesn't lock the rears on downshifts.

Manual+Clutch- you have to push a button for the clutch when you shift up or down. The game will not cut throttle on upshifts and you have to blip on downshifts.

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Everytime there's an upshift, the clutch is worth 2 car lengths vs. manual without the clutch. And that's just on the shift itself. Clutch users don't lose speed on the shift either, so the trap speed is higher. As much as 12mph higher at the end of the front straight on Road America. A guy using the clutch vs. someone who isn't can break the draft and pull away.

I havn't seen any difference on downshifts.

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Eric/Fink - thanks for the advice on the clutch...got to learn that now.

Eric - can't wait to see the new car!

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Mike Asselta
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Sam and John have already said they don't want anybody to use the clutch in our races. It's not very easy to do with the controller. Especially while braking.

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I will have to try the clutch for my single player season racing if it is that much faster, I imagine my leaderboard times will be better once I get used to it.

I would suggest we just keep one spec, whether it be with the clutch, or without it. I will learn how to use it if we want it, but I think we are better off allowing just the semi manual and auto for the guys who are new to online racing. Once everyone gets really good maybe we can look into it again.

So, what are we doing with the shock damping? I searched the web briefly for the specifications on our shocks and could not find any numbers, does anyone know what the bound/rebound is on them? If we can narrow in on a spec number that would be great. I can mess with tuning them to the spring rates this weekend (maybe).

OR, we can just make it easy and open up the damping settings to adjustment.

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John Adamczyk

Owner: 5X Racing Online Race Shop
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Thanks for the setup Jose. It was a much better. I was actually able to get around the track.

If we open up settings I will have to find someone to trackside my car. I wonder if OPM provides that service.

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Mike I made you a car, but I can't gift it [Frown] I will have to make the Mazda, Mazdaspeed and SCCA stickers from scratch before it will let me. Here are some pics of it and the 28 [Smile]
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[yep] [yep] [yep] [yep] [yep] [yep] [yep]

WOW!!!! Eric, I am speechless! These are unbelievable!

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Mike Asselta
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Are you guys doing this on Forza 3 or Photoshop!!! Those are awesome graphics. [thumbsup]

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So is there no actual clutch pedal for Forza? Can't you use the Logitech G25 setup with the game? I'm trying to figure out if I should invest in an Xbox, or go the iRacing route. What's the general feeling of driveability with the MSFT steering wheel, pedal setup?

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So are we on for tomorrow night at 9pm EST?

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Gary Jenkins
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Do we need a password or keyword to find your room?

Also, the G25 doesnt work on the Xbox, just PC and PS2/PS3

ANd Eric, is the iRacing decal availble to buy online?

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quote:
Originally posted by gwaronlawn:
So is there no actual clutch pedal for Forza? Can't you use the Logitech G25 setup with the game?

The Microsoft wheel doesn't have a clutch pedal. Like Trussell17t said, the G25 doesn't work with the Xbox; the Fanatec Porsche 911 Turbo S wheel does and has a clutch pedal, but it's pricey.

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Eric, I gifted you the MAZDA logo that Cheeto gifted me, and I gifted you the SCCA Club Racing decal that I made.

There's a pretty good Texas Flag inside the state outline on MazeltovKoktail's storefront. The File Name for that is Texas B Line. Type that in the search, and you should find it. Goes well next to the driver name. He also has a Texas license plate on there as well.

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I'm up for a few tonight; send me an invite if you find you need a vacant spot filled.

Gamertag is "Cheeto23" to anyone that doesn't already have it; I'll open up room on my Friends' List for players on this forum.

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Gonna go watch one of the girls that graduated for me play basketball today. Don't know what time I'll be back, but I'll see what I can do.

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quote:
Originally posted by Unsafe:
[yep] [yep] [yep] [yep] [yep] [yep] [yep]

WOW!!!! Eric, I am speechless! These are unbelievable!

Is actually much easier in game then for real, no air bubbles.... [Wink]

GT JimD76 if yall have room tonight.

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Will try to be on for 9PM EST session.

Specracer70

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I'm in for tonight.

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Stephen Hui - '95 SM #86, Northwest / Oregon Region SCCA

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Eric, looks good. One problem with Unsafe's car, that front fender is WAY too straight.

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What tracks are on slate for tonight?

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Johnson, It looks like you coming out of the porta john on pit lane.

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[rolling on floor laughin] [rolling on floor laughin] [rolling on floor laughin] [rolling on floor laughin] [rolling on floor laughin]

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Mike Asselta
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my car
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B Wilson Verified Driver Series Champ
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I'm in, but like at the 25, I'll be driving with a broken hand. At least this time I'll be in a cast [Smile] That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it...

Gamertag: jorwil

-BW

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Nice car John...what's your gamertag?

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Can anyone paint me this car? No idea how to do it? Dont forget the saferarcer Nationalracing series sticker [Big Grin]
The #'2, Mazda and Toyo are all supposed to be silver with Black outline, not green
xbox name is Slimprego
Jim


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Jim Drago
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Jim,
I will take a stab at this for you.

Can't put graphics on the windows though, and if you get a better offer, I will understand. There are better artists out there than me.

Mike

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Mike Asselta
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quote:
Originally posted by B Wilson:
I'm in, but like at the 25, I'll be driving with a broken hand. At least this time I'll be in a cast [Smile] That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it...

Gamertag: jorwil

-BW

Great [Roll Eyes] I finally find someone I can keep up with and than you tell me you are driving with a broken arm [Wink] It was Lots of fun while it lasted last night getting better every session just like my rookie season in SM.

Dennis

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Had a lot of fun Dennis. Hoping I can get a bit of practice before too long. I certainly need the track time.

For those of you thinking of joining in the fun, everyone was very helpful and tolerated newbies well.

Hints: get a microphone, as it helps if you spot for the guy your trying to pass. Online play seems a little jumpy so you got to give a lot of room. The tracks to practice up on are Road Atlanta, Road America, Sebring long, and Laguna Seca.

-bw
typing with a cast on is harder than racing with a cast!!!

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Bruce Wilson
2010 Oregon Region Champ
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2010 25 Hours of Thunderhill E3 and Under 2 liter Overall Champion
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quote:
Originally posted by B Wilson:
Online play seems a little jumpy so you got to give a lot of room.

It's actually pretty smooth most of the time, but if someone's on a slow or laggy internet connection, that'll cause them to jump around the screen. I've gone two and three abreast into turns with people with good connections and lived to see the other side. [Smile]

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You guys interested in racing Saturday 1/9/09 9:00pm eastern?

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I can't make this weekend but will be on more during the week since my son has headed back to college and given me unfettered access to the xBox again!

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Gary Jenkins
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i'll join in this weekend sometime. still working on the primo setup...been using the data they have on there in test sessions, it def helps.

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i still dont think an E269 miata is a fully built car.....cause we still need the cage, weight reduction, coils and plugs, not just the NGK plugs by themselves, that adds up to D310 ish or so.

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I'm tentatively in for this Saturday.

quote:
Originally posted by suck fumes:
i still dont think an E269 miata is a fully built car.....cause we still need the cage, weight reduction, coils and plugs, not just the NGK plugs by themselves, that adds up to D310 ish or so.

John explained a few pages back that the goal wasn't to exactly replicate a real SM's equipment, but rather to build a car that's about as fast as a real SM in the game. Feedback I've heard is that the E269 spec is still a bit faster than a real SM is.

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im on right now, a couple of you are on in Season Play, anyone sitting around and want to get an impromptu race going? or practice laps?

PS - This will be the first one i will have joined in on, how do i do it? haha

Thanks guys

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btw GT = doop07

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I'm in for trying my hand at this online racing bit.

And Dan, look for Nigel Stu this week. I'll probably be on tonight and tomorrow night at some point.


Sam/John - could one of you guys list out all the gamer tags in one post? may make it easier for everyone to get all the names in there. OR - better yet, can we get a 'Forza racing' topic set-up on this forum?????????? (instead of the general SMulators one). Or just sticky the rules, gamertag list in separate posts..

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Ben Schaut
Schaut Speed Motorsports
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#66 Blue/White/Black

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---> smracer31

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hey Ben, i didnt ignore it i just didnt know who it was cuz i havnt looked at this in a day or 2...next time im on ill add you, lets get some practice laps in.

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quote:
Originally posted by suck fumes:
i still dont think an E269 miata is a fully built car.....cause we still need the cage, weight reduction, coils and plugs, not just the NGK plugs by themselves, that adds up to D310 ish or so.

The cage is installed within these specs.

As Stephen said, the spec was a mix between what we really use on our cars and getting it somewhere close in lap times compared to real lap records on the tracks that are similar. If we match the mods to what we really have the cars would blow away the lap records, not even close. Most of these guys are already faster than the lap records with these specs, if anything the cars should be slowed down to obtain real life times.

Also, with a E269 rating it makes the car competitive in the E class during season play and general online play. This allows you to use your spec miata for progressing through your season and to embarrass guys online using maxed out E275 VW GTI's. I have been campaigning my SM in online play and doing fairly well with it on tracks without long straits, and getting plenty of practice in the mean time...

It seems to work, so far everyone has agreed. If we decide to change the spec it is going to have to be a group decision. We can always create an S class miata for spec races if we want to run faster?

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John Adamczyk

Owner: 5X Racing Online Race Shop
Driver: Team 5X Racing #25 Spec Miata
NASA FL Race Director
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quote:
Originally posted by Nigel Stu:
Sam/John - could one of you guys list out all the gamer tags in one post? may make it easier for everyone to get all the names in there. OR - better yet, can we get a 'Forza racing' topic set-up on this forum?????????? (instead of the general SMulators one). Or just sticky the rules, gamertag list in separate posts..

Sam has a webpage setup for the specs, maybe he can list the gamertags of the racers on that page: Sam's Forza 3 page

I will go through my friends list and report my findings here when I get back on there (hopefully soon, I have a real race this weekend).

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Hey, for a S class, what about making the TurboSM that has been talked about on these forums?????

Basically add on the turbo, full race weight reduction, slicks, race clutch, LSD, etc.


Dang Eric, 2:35 at RA????

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Ben Schaut
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