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luckymiata76
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South Bend Region is trying a different format(for GLDIV) for it's July 10-11 race weekend. All regional classes will qualify and race on Saturday while national classes will practice Saturday and qualify Saturday or Sunday(dependig on group) and race on Sunday.

Oh,we have been tentatively approved to run the new track layout that has added 1770 feet to turn 10 which extends the straight between turns 10 and 11. Come join us.

Registration available at http://www.sbrscca.org

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Jeff Luckritz
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just ran the new layout. Entry to 9 is now down hill and off camber then up hill onto the back straight. Add about 10 seconds to your lap time. I predict a lot will fall off the race course in turn 9.

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Ralph Provitz
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I am really confused about the format for this weekend since this event went from a restricted regional to all regional classes. How do the race groups work now? I am in Regional SM, group 4.

The Saturday schedule shows groups 3 and 4 on track together for Saturday qualifying. Are we sharing the track with group 3 and the national SM guys for qualifying. Or will the groups be split regional cars only for group 3 & 4 qualifying and the national cars will run in their own practice group 3 - 4?

Then it looks like the afternoon regional races will have their own track, groups 3 & 4 combined. And the national will have their own qualifying race.

Am I close?

Thanks,
Keith

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It looks to me as if there are three Regional Race / National Race on Track Groups: Groups 1&2, 3&4 and 5,6 & 7. The Regional SM's have a 25 Minute Practice / Qualification with the National SM Practice at about 9:00 AM, ( Groups 3 & 4). (This gives the Regional guys the chance to follow the National guys off at Turn 9). Followed by a Regional race at about 10:45 AM. Then we go home!

Track time seems light for the Regional Drivers.

Did I miss something?

Regards,

Jeff Getchell

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I read it the same way. We qualify on Saturday morning with all cars from regional groups 3 and 4 and at the same time all cars from the national group 4 will be on practice runs. So we need a lap and they really don't. Hopefully none of the national guys use the session to scuff in tires or bed in brakes. It won't be easy to tell regional entries from national.

Then regional groups 3 and 4 have one race in the late morning or near lunch without the national entries on track.

Then we're finished. Single regional.

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Entry list is looking very light for a new track layout. Well if SCCA approves it.

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Ralph Provitz
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Keith - You're not going to have to worry about the National guys just scruffing in tires and potentially messing up a hot lap - Most of them (me included) will be out in that session for qualifying for the Saturday race.

Looks like only 2 guys are running Nat only, the rest are running both regional and Nat.


Speaking of Nat vs. Reg - I could make some Toyo's available to ya. [duck]

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Ben Schaut
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Wish I knew about the spare Toyos a week ago, Ben. I already told the family that this is a Saturday only event. Would have loved to run both days.

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Hey Guys,
According to the dialog on the Apex Speed site, we're using the short track, Friday and Saturday. There may be one long track event on Friday.
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Jeff Getchell

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It was the Chief Steward's decision to use the short track. I'm sure if you ask him this weekend, he'll tell you the basis of his decision.

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Jeff Luckritz
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Congratulations to Jeff Luckritz - winner at today's Gingerman SCCA National. Jeff drove well and earned his first? Spec Miata National win. Jeff had to do some last minute repairs after an incident during Saturday's regional. Rumor is Jeff located an alignment specialist and fastener source from another SCCA division for his Sunday set-up [Smile]

Sunday's National Result:
1. Luckritz 1:40.677
2. Manning 1:40.494
3. Williams 1:40.376
4. Schaut 1:40.528
5. Bednarz 1:39.805
6. Weidner 1:41.185
7. Cutler 1:42.524
8. Thompson 1:42.884

The area around Gingerman and Lake Michigan is great, (Patty the crew chief enjoys this event!) The track has good facilities, and the event was well run by the SBR region. Hopefully we can run the new layout next year, but I still find this course challenging and worth the expense of a race weekend. Weather was great.

The track became slick after the first few laps, partially due to the sun, plus an AS Mustang blowing up on lap 9 and laying a huge amount of oil between turns 4 and 5 in the racing line. It made the racing line unusable in that area for the second half of the race, and for the first car (me!) behind the AS Mustang, a long ride into the weeds!

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Just wanted to say what a great time I had at G-man this Friday-Saturday. This was my first Regionl on my Novice permit. All the SM guys I met were great! The weather was perfect and the local region put on a really good event.

I could hardly get out of my own way on the track (I felt like a moving cone) but I will do better next time. All I need is a bigger motor and LOTS more
track time.

Thanks again for all the advice and help,
Regards
Funracer (Neil)

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David,

You're being way too modest. You had the race well in hand with a good lead on everyone, until you found the Mustang's fluid before T-5 which put you out into the weeds while Manning, Luckritz, Williams and Schaut all motored on by. The race leading Solstice also went spinning but kept it on track to stay out front. A few laps later, Manning drove off the exit of T-6 (maybe still slick from the fluid), that allowed Jeff to motor by him. Good race by Jeff, but he is amply called Lucky.

Neil,

I was the blue SM in front of you most of the race on Saturday. I hope I didn't cut you off in T-11 on the final lap. I saw you coming hard, and knew that Hamilton in the Green SM was coming behind you. I took my normal line into the turn, but I believe you had to brake hard to keep from punting me in the side, which sounds like it resulted in Keith getting into you. I was looking for you that evening to discuss, but never found you.

Just to reiterate everyone's expressions, it was a good weekend at the track. SBR put on a good race.

Jerry

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Jerry, I did get into Neil in the regional race, actually it was heading into turn 7. I talked to Neil and apologized, but I still feel bad about getting into a novice at his first event. There was a close battle for 1, 2, 3 when we caught you and Neil, who had your own battle going.

I think Neil and I figured out what happened there. I originally set up to pass the two of you on the outside into 7 because it was open. You then moved to the outside to set up for the entry, so I made an abrubt move across the track to the inside. After talking with Neil, it seems like he checked his mirrors and caught a glimpse of a bright colored car going to the outside, so he pinched in a bit. Don't think he saw my change of direction and he had no idea that I had crossed to a different line and was now actually overtaking on the inside. He pinched in a little to give room to where he thought I was, so I pinched down too and clipped the curbing. We hit almost wheel to wheel. 100% my fault. I don't think I would have made that move if I had known he was that new. Things happen quickly, so who knows. Again Neil, sorry for the contact.

Fun race. Wish I could have done the National too.

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Congrats to Keith and Jeff on the wins !!

It was nice to finally meet Dave. He had that one in the bag until the AS car fluid incident. I went straight off in five right after the AS car and almost hit him in the grass. Later I went off at six after getting too close to the actual line.

Overall a fun weekend. I learned that a good set of Hoosiers are 2 full seconds faster than a five year old worn down set of Toyos. Interesting experiment but not a good idea if you want to run well at a National !

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No worries from me guys. I just want to make my car and me faster so next time I won't be in everyones way. Already scheduled some dyno time this week so we can see whats going on with the "new" motor.

Keith, Congrats on the win! I still feel I must have at least some responsiblity for our bump, if for no other reason than my inexperience. I introduced myself to several of the other SM guys on Friday and Saturday morning to let them know there would be a newbie on the track. I am really glad I did not cost you the win and it was surely a cheap lesson for me.

Jerry, it was nice of you to hang back and let me have somebody to chase. Never could catch you but it was great fun trying. I had to work on Sunday and we had a 6 hr drive home so we left shortly after the Regional.

The Supps schedule showed the dinner Saturday night was a "Polish Wedding Buffet". Not your typicl BBQ or spaghetti. Sorry we missed it.

Already planning my next event. Probably Mid-Ohio or St. Louis over the July 31 weekend.

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Congrats to Keith and Jeff!

I enjoyed running with everyone, nice to meet Keith, Neil(welcome to SM), Dave, Jeff, and Ben (more formally on the track this time [Smile] ) Good to see Harry and Dave, and Craig again... really tough luck Dave! Nice running before the AS shower. Harry and Rusty, great to see and race with you guys again!

Thanks to all for some good hard clean racing!

Chris

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It certainly was a good weekend! Lots of fun racing with all you guys - talk about close racing too! Chris, I have some excellent video (about 35 minutes worth) of the back of your car in varying zoom levels if you'd like it... [Big Grin]

I know that I was kept busy the entire time out there.

Congrats Jeff on your finish on Sunday after the crazy start on Saturday.

It was good to meet most of the rest of you too. Neil, I'm sorry I missed you out there. I wanted to stop by and chat a bit. Hope to see you all on track again soon!

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Ben Schaut
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quote:
Wish I could have done the National too.
Keith, I have 4 used/prime RA1 (about 1/32 tread left) that you can have. Stop messin' around with those dang purple tires - unless you can find a way to get them spec'd for us [duck]

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I'd like to thank everybody for coming to our race. We're always looking for ways to improve the weekend for racers, so if you have any suggestions how to make the weekend better please let me know.

I'm looking forward to running the long course in 2010.

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quote:
Originally posted by miata68:
Rumor is Jeff located an alignment specialist and fastener source from another SCCA division for his Sunday set-up [Smile]

I guess the set-up that he got from yet another division didn't make it one lap on Saturday before being 'adjusted'.

That car really gets around! It's had more hands working on it than my high school girlfriend. Sounds like the 'lucky #76' is becoming the track whore. [butthead]

Congratulations to Jeff on his win. It's nice to see someone win who hasn't spent a fortune on equipment. For the guys that Jeff beat... you weren't beaten by equipment, you were flat-out out driven.

Jeff... you are now my hero. [thumbsup] (sorry Tom)

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Thanks to Mike for spending 4 hours replacing knuckle bolts, cam bolts and aligning my car(3 hours later) a week before the race. The combination of the alignment and the exhaust change brought me within a few tenths of Harry M and David B. Unfortunately, 3 turns into Saturday's regional race, I got rammed in the right-rear wheel which bent my control arm bolt into a "U" shape.

Rusty, Ralph Porter, and my crew guy Paul cut, banged, and pryed that damn bolt out. 2 hours later, Rusty and Paul had the toe set and we eye-balled the camber with an hour to spare before the race.

Finally, Paul alerted me over the radio about the blown-up Mustang in turn 5 which alerted me to take an alternate line into 5 right behind Manning. Harry's car understeered into the grass in 5A (or 6) which allowed me to get by. Held off Harry for a lap or two and managed to gain a tenth a lap for several laps and finally settled in for the win. First win since 2003.

It felt good.

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quote:
Originally posted by luckymiata76:
Thanks to Mike for spending 4 hours replacing knuckle bolts, cam bolts and aligning my car(3 hours later) a week before the race.

Anybody who knows me will never believe this. I'm not that fast! [Eek!]

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