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Mike
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Jim Daniels has completed the updated version of his Original Setup Guide. You can find version 2 of his setup guide on the home page of specmiata.com or by clicking the link below.

JD SM Setup Guide Version 2

This document is released into the public domain and may be reproduced and distributed in its entirety so long as all credit to Jim Daniels and Specmiata.com remains. If you find this guide helpful please send a token of your satisfaction by Supporting Us

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Thanks for the help Mike! Top this forum if you will, I'm not near a PC.

Setup should be a breeze now gang! Email me with questions. [Smile]

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Thanks for doing the version 2 guide JD and i'm interested in a dyno tuning guide.

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Thank you Jim for version 1 and 2. And Yes, a dyno tuning guide would be great.

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Great guide!!! Thanks and a dyno guide would be much appreciated!!

Wanted to Dyno my car soon but will now wait for your guide.

Thanks!

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I will get on it next week and ask Drago to help. He is the undisputed king of how to get the most out of the Dyno in the least time. (yes, a nice way to call him cheap). [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Jim Daniels:
I will get on it next week and ask Drago to help. He is the undisputed king of how to get the most out of the Dyno in the least time. (yes, a nice way to call him cheap). [Wink]

What about the grammar, will you handle that? [Wink]

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quote:
Originally posted by Blake Clements:
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Daniels:
I will get on it next week and ask Drago to help. He is the undisputed king of how to get the most out of the Dyno in the least time. (yes, a nice way to call him cheap). [Wink]

What about the grammar, will you handle that? [Wink]
Blake, you don't need no stinkin' setups anyway. You're a karter. Just pitch and drift around the problems [Wink] [Razz] [yep]

And if that don't work, ask Meise.

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Jim D,

Thanks for taking the time to do this. I have only scanned it and read about 50%. Looks like you spent some time doing this.

Don

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Jim D,

Thanks for doing this. A couple of questions. First, can you really get -3* camber on the fronts? With the old shock hats I've had my car as low as 4 1/2" and could only get to -2.2*. Second, on page 8 did you really mean 70 psi???

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JD, thanks again for another great setup guide, even better than the first.

Pat and Shawn Slattery

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Jim- as always, thanks for everything you do for the SM community!

Kick some butt in Koni Challenge!!!

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Gang, Drago is back from two weeks of racing. We are going over the Dyno draft now. Should have something out maybe this weekend or next week. Srry late!

Thanks!

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I'm SO looking forward to the Dyno doc.

I know nothing! Just like Schultz.

Thanks Jim!

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Eric, PM me if you need any help. Or bring the car down early on a COMMA weekend. We will tune it for you.

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THANKS !

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I have been in Spec Miata for three years now but haven't done any real tuning. My current project is to get my car set for my first race this season at Blackhawlk Farms in April. This guide looks seems to be just what I need for now.

Thanks

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JD;
'Thanks' and 'Thanks in advance'.

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JD:
Thanks for the ver 2.0 write up. The effort expended was apparent.
Rick

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Thanks for providing such a great set up guide! All this stuff isn't learned overnight and I appreciate you sharing your knowledge.

A tip I used when scaling and making the adjustments is I wrote up on one side of paper and down on the other. I did this on 4 sheets so that I could leave them at each scale pad. After I took my readings and established which direction the weight needed to go I put the paper showing either up or down at each corner so that I could keep my rotations straight before I took a wheel off.

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Glad to do it guys! good suggestion Jonlee!

Dyno guide is coming, Drago and Sam have been beating away. My input glanced at but not worthy of adding, they have made dyno tuning art!

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The doc link is broken!

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quote:
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The doc link is broken!

The doc link is fixed!

Thanks for the heads up

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How much of ver 2.0 can be applied to a SSM car? Ride heights are much different now with the new shock hats (which we don't have in SSM). What is a good height to use as a base and how much will that effect everything else? How much of ver 1.0 is useable (base numbers)? What were you guys using before the shock hat change?

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Bart, it will depend on the track, but without the shock hats, somewhere around 5" give or take, maybe a bit higher if it is a bumpy track. Do some testing and see what you like best.

Some people will tell you to slam the car to get camber. I don't agree with that school of thought.

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Version 1 was for the old shock hats. From memory the base for stock shock hats was:

2.0 camber all around
0 toe all around
5.25" ride height all around
3-5 caster but even

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Any news on the dyno tuning guide? That still in the works?

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When caster is measured, is it lock to lock?

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quote:
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When caster is measured, is it lock to lock?

not lock to lock. It is 20* to 20*

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Anyone know why my camber/caster gauge's instructions (it's a 20 year old hand-me-down) would say to multiply the resultant figure by 1.5 to get caster?

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Because you aren't measuring the caster angle directly, you are measuring the change in camber between two steering angles, and 1.5 is the accepted multiplier for converting camber angles taken at +/- 20 degrees of road wheel steer angle. A brand new gauge would tell you to do the same thing, or would have a second graduated bubble with the *1.5 built in.

See also Google.

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JD and Drago,

Any idea when the dyno guide is coming?

Thanks, jay

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Funny you ask, I'm about to do a full build guide for the site. The dyno portion will be included as the build guide will chronicle every step from donor purchase to first track day.

I will have an announcement soon in the announcement section.

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Nice!

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That would be incredibly timely if it is posted soon.


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quote:
Originally posted by JIM DANIELS:
Funny you ask, I'm about to do a full build guide for the site. The dyno portion will be included as the build guide will chronicle every step from donor purchase to first track day.

I will have an announcement soon in the announcement section.

How can "soon" in JD time be measured? Days? Months? Years? A complete guide, Century’s? [Big Grin]

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JD any word on the dyno guide. Gonna take the car to the dyno sometime in FEB. Think something will be out by then ??

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I'm new to the sport and just wanted to say this is great. I didn't expect so much information to be out there from the other drivers. I'm in Iraq right now taking in all I can about SM. I'm hoping to be racing by mid 2011. Can't wait to meet you guys on the track. This forum is invaluable. Thanks All!!!!!

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In JDs set up guide STEP 2, it is says that the caster should be between +3 & +5, However in the paragraph right before that, it says to pull the caster back to full negative(lower ball joint toward the rear of the car) and forward one notch. Wouldn't this be negative caster( or certainly not +3-+5) as opposed to the recommendation of positve caster? I have never seen anyone question this, so I have to assume I am reading this wrong. Any clarification would be greatly appreciated.
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike:
Jim Daniels has completed the updated version of his Original Setup Guide. You can find version 2 of his setup guide on the home page of specmiata.com or by clicking the link below.

JD SM Setup Guide Version 2

This document is released into the public domain and may be reproduced and distributed in its entirety so long as all credit to Jim Daniels and Specmiata.com remains. If you find this guide helpful please send a token of your satisfaction by Supporting Us


   

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