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UCFBrett
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OK, I just bought a set of Mazdaspeed adjustable links for the rear bar on my car, but when they arrived, they were not assembled. Obviously, the standard nuts spin onto the heim-joint studs to lock them into position in the sleeve.

My question is where do the little threadless collars go? Do they sit up against the ferrule in the heim joint or what?

Any wisdom?

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The collars go on either side of the heim joint on the bolt.

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now another question that I doubt will get any answers: how long are yo guys running your endlinks? whats a good starting point?

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quote:
Originally posted by misterwaterfallin:
now another question that I doubt will get any answers: how long are yo guys running your endlinks? whats a good starting point?

For your car start at full stiff front and full loose in the rear. Tighten rear if you have understeer.

At least that's what i did upon receiving semi-sage advice.

Jason

Edit: Man, I need to read the posts closer. I thought you meant which positions.

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Make one the same length as the stock part and then adjust the other for zero pre-load. Just make sure the wheels are all on the same plane.

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***now another question that I doubt will get any answers: how long are yo guys running your endlinks? whats a good starting point?***

With all the other setup work complete I set mine up with the car level/wheels all the same plane & I positioned the end lever of the anti roll bar parallel with the ground. Then you make the endlinks length to suit.

The tube spacer/collar is so that the heim will not bind up with the anti roll bar lever arm or the fastening bolt head or nut.

Stackup for the connector link:

Anti roll bar, tube spacer/collar, heim, tube spacer/collar, flat washer, bolt head. The flat washer should be large enough so that if something happened to the spherical ball of the heim joint the heim joint can not flop free of the bolt.

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David, The kit from Mazdaspeed didn't include flat washers. I'm sure I have something suitable on hand, but, so we're clear, are you suggesting I add washers?

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Yes, it's that little bit of added safety just in case.

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Cool. Thanks.

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Reading these posts, I want to clarify something. You're supposed to have the car on scales or absolutely flat and on the ground. The suspension needs to be loaded (see JD's setup guide). Then, once you've got it all scaled and aligned, your last step is to hook up the end links. And you get them just long enough that they slip on easily with no preload. Some folks will preload the swaybar for certain conditions, but remember that doing so may throw off your cross weights a bit - that may be ok, depending on if you're trying to engineer some characteristics into the handling.

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I had the car on my garage floor, which is the flattest piece of concrete I have access to. I just had my car corner balanced and aligned, and I slipped the bolts through with no trouble.

I also had to have a buddy of mine sit in the car with a Pelican camera case and the factory spare in his lap to make my weight.

Car felt pretty good at Buttonwillow in April.

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quote:
Originally posted by UCFBrett:
I also had to have a buddy of mine sit in the car with a Pelican

yeah. ok. whatever it takes.

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As you feed fish to the pelican, do the cross weights change?

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Perhaps more importantly with the upcoming rule change...if the pelican shits on the RHS mirror...are you out of compliance?

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Pelicans are only legal ballast if you bolt them down with two 1/2" grade 5 bolts with lock nuts and load distributing washers.

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Now that the thread has been highjacked by a pelican, I'd like to bring it back to a more serious note. I have just installed my Mazdaspeed end links and 99' hats this weekend. (Special thanks to the guys at MER for having an extra bushing laying around, since I launched 1 of the 4 somewhere in the shop while grinding it down and couldn't find it anywhere) Is it normal for the rear swaybar to move laterally within the bushings. I can hear something knocking around while transitioning for left-right/right-left. Think its the swaybar. Anyone else have this happen? Everything is tight in the suspension. It was also doing this before the new endlinks and hats were installed.

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It happens. Attach a couple split collars or hose clamps for a test.

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quote:
Originally posted by David Dewhurst:
It happens. Attach a couple split collars or hose clamps for a test.

I thought that was verboten?

Mine does it too.

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***I thought that was verboten?***

Very true.

***for a test.***

To confirm.

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But how do you stop it from happening? I don't think it helps the cars handling any!

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