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Stu Pudasso
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Im looking for a steering wheel quick release and there are 2 sizes that i have found so far. 5/8 and 3/4. Does anyone know which one i need? What brands do you guys use? I found a rebco at the jegs website for $61.99

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http://www.sweetmfg.biz/products3.asp?edit_id=52

Sweet Manufacturing

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This one works well for me:
http://tcdesignfab.com/products.html
(scroll all the way to the bottom)

You just need the hub adapter appropriate for the car and your steering wheel, and it goes in between.

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Stu Pudasso
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I totally want to buy the sweet mfg 6 bolt quick release but i cant seem to find a place to buy it. you can't but it from the website and i cant seem to find it on any searches that i do. Seabee where did you get yours?

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Check the "distributers" tab on the sweetmfg.biz webpage. There's at least 2 in Cal.

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This is the one I finally bought works similar to the one at TCDesign but much less expensive. You will need to buy a MOMO Adapter to mount it.
NRG SRK100B

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I called Sweet directly.

269-344-2086

I think it was around $95.

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You can get the Sweet from Dave Wheeler at advanced-autosports. He's a long time supporter of this site and has awesome customer service. on-line ordering too.

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Thanks spdmonkey. They are in stock

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Thanks guys! You all rock. I called advanced-motorsports they are closed today, so monday i'll order it.

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I have some similar to TC Design and NRG, it's from http://www.xperformance.com

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i'm pretty sure all quick disconnects listed here are going to be good, so i'm not going to tell you which one i got.

However, make SURE you get a splined one rather than one of the "hex" ones... I've had experience with both and i hated the hex one's because its difficult to line up the wheel. Also, it had more play than the splined one i currently have.


Just my 2 cents.

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Splines work better than hexes, but the TC hub (which is neither) works even better.

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TC, NRG, and Xperformance use ball bearings to lock it into place, no play at all.

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Xperformance has no play, locks in place centered correctly, and when it snaps in it is positively on and will not come off accidently,

My Recomendation for what it is worth!
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Does anybody know if the bolt-on unit from LTB requires an adapter to mount a Sparco steering wheel (I got the 383, which is 330mm)? There are so mnay options out there, I'm having a hard time understanding how they all go together. My old SM had a section of splin welded on and then a pull-type quick release that went the full circumference. I think is was a Sweet, but I'm not sure. The car I'm building now has a Momo wheel (too small for racing) and an adapter, but I'd like to get rid of the adapter if a quick-release can do two jobs in one (adapt and quick release). Thanks!

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I use the LTB unit. You need a momo hub adaptor for it.

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If I use the existing momo adapter (about 3 inches), won't that put the wheel too close to the driver? The Sparco 383 has a 35mm "dish". So that's 3" + 1.25" + thickness of the LTB unit. How does that differ from stock? Thanks again.

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The way mine is now its only about an inch or so closer than stock. The momo wheel i use is flat though. If you use that dished wheel it will be closer. I like the wheel close to my body and its a bit far now. I might buy one of LTB's 1.25" spacers to move it closer. The other thing is there are several brands of adapters other than momo and one of them may be a bit shallower. Mine was quite small compared to the suckers we used on various VW's. I can take a pic if you like of my setup with a ruler to gauge depth.

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I think the Sparco steering wheel will be too close to the driver if I sandwhich a quick-release in between it and the existing Momo adapter.

So, what quick-release can I use that bolts directly to the shaft so I can eliminate the momo adapter? Or, what is the thinest quick release available if I have to sandwhich one between the wheel and adpater?

I'm looing for value here.. the best solution for the money. I don't need the cheapest or the best-made. Thanks!

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Value=welding a Sweet Mfg. spline to the steering shaft. I ended up making my own adapter also because I didn't want the wheel too close to me.

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What quick-release can I use that bolts directly to the shaft so I can eliminate the momo adapter? Or, what is the thinest quick release available if I have to sandwhich one between the wheel and adpater?

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quote:
Originally posted by MiataRacer31:
I think the Sparco steering wheel will be too close to the driver if I sandwhich a quick-release in between it and the existing Momo adapter.

So, what quick-release can I use that bolts directly to the shaft so I can eliminate the momo adapter? Or, what is the thinest quick release available if I have to sandwhich one between the wheel and adpater?

I'm looing for value here.. the best solution for the money. I don't need the cheapest or the best-made. Thanks!

This is exactly the problem I'm having with my car. The steering wheel is too close, the pedals too far (I'm 5'6").

And the Momo hub just isn't working for me. If I move my seat up any more, I'll be on the steering wheel nascar style, which I don't like. If anyone has figured out a solution to this, I'd be very interested.

What I really need is a low profile adapter. Just looking at the design of the momo hub adapter, can it be squished down (in a vise or some other method) to make it shorter without compromising its integrity?

I've also got a quick release that I wouldn't want to give up.

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Check with miatacage.com, i'm short too and i actually use 2 of their spacers to get my grant wheel where i want it. Splined, very little play although you can detect some when the car is still and you're anal retentive.

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If you want to move your wheel *farther* away from your body, there are a couple possibilities. But it sort of depends what you're using now in terms of the QR and steering wheel.

If you have a bolt on QR adaptor, they tend to be longer than the weld on ones so you could replace that.

There are lower profile adaptors that mate a Momo wheel to a 3-bolt hub than the big one sold by Momo. Miatacage sells those too for $50.

You could look for a wheel that has less dish if your current one has a lot of dish.

I don't think trying to squish down your current adapter is a very good idea.

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Thanks for the tip. It looks like this is what I really need: http://www.miatacage.com/steering-shaft-adaptor-splined-with-p-42.html

It's pricy, but looks like it should do the job. I'll take some measurements when i get home to figure out the delta between what momo+QR that I have vs. the 2 inches claimed by Miatacage

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I may be confused here but I have that steering shaft adapter and I'm hard pressed to see how it's going to move your wheel farther away from you. Since it screws onto the shaft, it moves the wheel closer to you than the weld on ones. Not sure what you're using now though in terms of a quick release etc. I thought you just wanted a lower profile adapter for your existing QR to the wheel.

If you do get that one, Sean and most others recommend at least tack welding it on for safety.

Nice QR though. Just make sure you make marks for when your wheels are straight. It makes alignments easier and it's annoying to start a session and realize your wheel is cockeyed a few degrees. [yep]

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Actually, you're right. Miatacage's won't work. Here's what I've got: Momo adapter, Bicknell Racing Products QR, Sparco 330 steering wheel. From the dimmer switch to the center of the wheel, is 10". According to this picture,http://www.miatacage.com/images/SSI%20with%20DPI%20and%20Wheel%20and%20tape1%20XL.jpg it's 9.5".

So, it won't solve anything for me. Looks like my only option will be to get the QR shaft welded to the steering shaft. Looks like a winter project at this point. Best option I've identified so far is: http://www.saferacer.com/longacre-spline-hub-quick-disconnect.html?productid=606

That looks like it will in fact move the steering wheel further away. If anyone knows of another or better weld-on option, let me know.

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I still think I might be missing something. [Confused]

The Momo adapters I'm thinking of are 2.75 inches thick between mating surfaces to connect your 3 bolt QR to your 6 hole wheel. They're huge.

A number of places make a simple machined billet aluminum ring that does the same thing like this one...

http://www.miatacage.com/steering-wheel-adaptor-lightweight-p-105.html

Others make them too. That would move your wheel about 2 inches farther away.

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Ok, let me clarify. You have the momo splined adapter that goes straight down on the steering shaft. It is huge ~2.25inches. (left of the picture) Then, there's a plate that has the QR shaft welded to it that screws to the MOMO adapter. (lower right of the picture). Then the QR goes on top of the shaft, then a 3 hole steering wheel adapter (like the one in your picture), that mates the QR to the steering wheel.

http://www.advanced-autosports.com/images/products/QuickSpline_L.jpg

What I want to do is reduce all of that mess down to 2 inches +/-. I can get rid of the QR, and get a couple of inches that way, but I prefer not to do that.

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Now I get it. Different type of adapter than I was thinking.

You'll be hard pressed to find a screw on QR setup that meets your needs unless someone makes one that actually surrounds the steering column instead of stick out the end of it.

You need about 2" just to securely screw onto the column itself.

The only other thing I can think of which would look goofy but probably work (at least short term) is flip your steering wheel around so the dish goes fwd instead of back.

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One more alternative that I've come across is this one: http://www.sweetmfg.biz/products3.asp?edit_id=52 It combines the Sparco/Momo steering wheel adaptor with the QR (rather than the typical 3 bolt design). ART carries it.

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Too bad OK Miata has gone bye bye. They had a QR hub that bolts directly onto the shaft but does not extend it too far out. Basically it's a sleeve that goes onto the steering shaft splines and the hub goes over that. QR hub and adapter in one.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ralliboy:
Too bad OK Miata has gone bye bye. They had a QR hub that bolts directly onto the shaft but does not extend it too far out. Basically it's a sleeve that goes onto the steering shaft splines and the hub goes over that. QR hub and adapter in one.

This is the one I bought too, but it still required an adapter from the QR to the sterling wheel (I think they machined the splined-shaft-end to be 'bolt-on')... Once O.K. went off the web I searched all over for a replacement (to sell), T H E S E are the closest I could find.

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Ok guys, i'm looking for a QR too and i've followed up this thread. i looked at the Sweet Mfg 6-hole QR they looks nice but i then i was thinking about the play.. i would be really irritated by any steering play. also i noticed that the Sweet QR uses all-way spline instead of one-way, so it means once i take the wheel off, i have to remember the original position otherwise i could have a crooked wheel right?

what about the NRG? any comments on that brand?

also if anyone knows what how much closer the wheel to the driver using the Sweet Mfg compared to OEM?

thanks

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@sm_noz - I ordered the NRG this week and will have it today or early next week so I will let you know.

FWIW, I used a similar design in my previous car from TC Design that Zack referenced earlier in the thread. The one-way attachment and zero play was awesome. I'm assuming the NRG will be the same based on the design so long as tolerances are adequate. You want the NRG Generation 2.5 which has a thicker flange to grab - easier to get on and off with gloves.

You will need three pieces:

1. Momo/NRG/other brand hub adapter which gives you a six-hole pattern from your steering column. Momo adapter #5702 for Miatas are on Ebay for $65 and no shipping.

2. Quick release hub (optional; NRG, formerly TC Design, Momo makes three different ones designed for formula, touring cars and rally and Sparco has one as well; as you can imagine the Momo/Sparco ones are $$$)

3. Steering wheel (six-hole pattern, the standard as far as I'm aware for Sparco, Momo, etc. Also on Ebay right now are Momo Mod 78 suede wheels for about $110. Great deal over the normal $250 price.

If you use the hub adapter and a non-dished wheel, it puts the steering wheel right around the same location it was originally as I recall.

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Noz,
With a splined wheel especially, make sure you mark the straight ahead position. It will help you in two ways...

1) You won't end up driving a whole session with your wheel off 15* the whole time or trying to pop it off and straighten it out on a straightaway without wrecking.

2) If you hit something and come off the track with both wheels pointing in different directions, it's easier to get them both pointed straight again if you know where straight is.

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