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Brandon F. Verified Driver
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Well, decided to do a tranny/differential fluid change and ended up with a fluid-swapped differential and an empty transmission.

How in the %$^@# do you put fluid in this sum'b!tch**?!

I figure I'll need some form of fluid pump regardless so that's the avenue I'll be pursuing in the meantime but if others have some suggestions on how they're doing it, I'm all ears.

One thought I had was drilling a hold in the transmission tunnel (to be plugged w/a body plug) that's at about the same point of the fill hole. Snake a hose through the hole into the transmission and fill it from within the cabin.

Obviously this would require someone underneath watching for overfill but it's at least better than trying to contort yourself under the car to hold a bottle properly to empty into the car.

Thanks in advance everyone,
Brandon

** And after being under the car w/only ramps and a stripped filler plug that's a technical term for the transmission! [Wink] [rolling on floor laughin]

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The hole and snake method is what I did.

Unless your snake is long enough, you may still have to contort yourself in the cockpit.

PS: I realize I'm opening myself up to glory hole and other jokes. I'm just bored since the Member input thread seems to have died down.

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I found a clear funnel at one of the Autozone/Advance type places. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/catalog/accessor...+funnel&brandName=Hopkins To make it work for the tranny, take the supplied hose off and replace it with a longer hose. Put the funnel between the valve cover and the master cylinder so it sits vertical, feed the hose between the exhaust down tube and the tranny. Cut the hose to length, take the cap end from the supplied hose stick it in the new hose backwards and clap it on. Jam that end in the tranny fill hole and fill it up.

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Brandon F. Verified Driver
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Cool - good to know I'm not totally stupid when it comes to this stuff.

I miss the days of big V-8 engine bays with only a slant-6 bolted up and dipsticks for all fluids...

[Big Grin]

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I just bought one of those cheapie fluid pumps, snake one end into the fill plug and the other into the fluid bottle. The guy at the auto parts store said it wouln't work. He was wrong. Put hose clamps on the tubes though otherwise the hoses will pop off due to the pressure and blow tranny fluid all over you.

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All of the above are fine, but, I am cheap and lazy so I just bought a length of clear hose about 1/2 inch diameter 4 feet long and a funnel that would fit into it. Gravity does the work and overfill is not an issue as you will see the flow stop. Pull the hose and drain it into an oil catch pan under the car. Have done it many times, ya just need a little patience and about 2 quarts of tranny oil. Also, don't forget the turrette!

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I saw this guy at the track do his dif and tranny in a about 20mins with this and his cordless drill. $6.95 plus some fitting for a 1/2" hose.
http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materials-Plumbi...eId=10051&catalogId=10053
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[ 10-27-2009, 03:31 PM: Message edited by: Johnny D ]

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sweet!, it fits both my requirements, cheap and lazy!

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Big fluid syringe is what I use. Works well for the trans and rear diff.

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Next stupid question(s) for this thread:

Part number of the fill plug?

And is it really a 4-sided head best suited to a crescent wrench for R&R?

Do you guys use any sealant on the threads as recommended by the service manual?
If so, any standard RTV silicone 'gasket maker'?

TIA again...

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For a '95 it's 9950-24-000F. Probably the same for all years but I couldn't say. I don't use sealant on the threads and it doesn't leak on my car.

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I used this. I replaced the long wand with a hose. It's slow but spill proof.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ66xgp/R-1006...eId=10051&catalogId=10053

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Big crescent wrench works well on the fill plug. No need to use any sealant. And don't screw it in too tight or it's a b1tch to loosen the next time.

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I've been using something similar to this for years, works like a big syringe.

http://www.bosstoolsupply.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=11976

They are available at pretty much any auto parts store.

Richard

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Considering people have come up with a number of simple tools and others might want to experiment with things they have handy, DON'T try a turkey baster unless you want to wear a turkey baster full of trans fluid. [nope] The bulb pops off in spectacular fashion.

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I use the same method as Tony. Long piece of hose and a funnel. Just remove the rubber shifter boot and you can run the hose right down to the fill hole.

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used to use the syringe type

but been using a Harbor Freight pump for three years, very easy and clean and fast to use

I have a few for different jobs- the oil one still working great after 3 years

I stocked up on them when on sale for 4 dollars- the best ones have clear hose if you can find them

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66418

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quote:
Originally posted by scott adams:
used to use the syringe type

but been using a Harbor Freight pump for three years, very easy and clean and fast to use

I have a few for different jobs- the oil one still working great after 3 years

I stocked up on them when on sale for 4 dollars- the best ones have clear hose if you can find them

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=66418

I use the same HF pump. In fact I did my Diff and Transmission lat Saturday and had both drained and filled in less than 20 minutes. Next onto the engine oil and I had swapped all three in 30 minutes.
One of those pumps will draw fairly decent volumes from the oil bottle on each pump (maybe 8-10 pumps per qt.)

Also I have another of these pumps that I use in the gas tank when I want to drain it for corner balancing.

-Jon

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One of the neatest tricks I've seen is a about a 4' long piece of 1/2" PVC pipe with a 90 degree elbow at the end, into which is glued about a 1.5" stub of PVC pipe. That stub slides into the side plug opening. The rig is inserted under the hood beside the head pipe and a funnel is inserted in the top. Pour in the oil, it runs down the PVC into the tranny.

Personally, I have a plunger pump that threads on a standard gallon bottle that delivers an ounce per stroke. I pour the oil into the gallon and pump away.
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5/8" twelve point socket for my fill plug. No need to gorilla it on either.

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quote:
Originally posted by Qik Nip:
One of the neatest tricks I've seen is a about a 4' long piece of 1/2" PVC pipe with a 90 degree elbow at the end, into which is glued about a 1.5" stub of PVC pipe. That stub slides into the side plug opening. The rig is inserted under the hood beside the head pipe and a funnel is inserted in the top. Pour in the oil, it runs down the PVC into the tranny.

Personally, I have a plunger pump that threads on a standard gallon bottle that delivers an ounce per stroke. I pour the oil into the gallon and pump away.
Rick

You must have seen that in the Mr. Excitement paddock like me. It looked very slick, but I have never made one. I used the "stroker pump" for a couple years until my girlfriend threw it away while I had it draining. After that I bought a large volume pump that only takes two or three strokes per quart. Harder to pump, but a lot less strokes.

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Cool!!! (hurrying to throw away his syringe style and find $7)


quote:
Originally posted by Johnny D:
I saw this guy at the track do his dif and tranny in a about 20mins with this and his cordless drill. $6.95 plus some fitting for a 1/2" hose.
http://www.homedepot.com/Building-Materials-Plumbi...eId=10051&catalogId=10053
J~


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This coming from a guy who prides himself on being able to put fluid in any hole in any configuration.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jerry Cabe:
quote:
Originally posted by Qik Nip:
One of the neatest tricks I've seen is a about a 4' long piece of 1/2" PVC pipe with a 90 degree elbow at the end, into which is glued about a 1.5" stub of PVC pipe. That stub slides into the side plug opening. The rig is inserted under the hood beside the head pipe and a funnel is inserted in the top. Pour in the oil, it runs down the PVC into the tranny.

Personally, I have a plunger pump that threads on a standard gallon bottle that delivers an ounce per stroke. I pour the oil into the gallon and pump away.
Rick

You must have seen that in the Mr. Excitement paddock like me. It looked very slick, but I have never made one. I used the "stroker pump" for a couple years until my girlfriend threw it away while I had it draining. After that I bought a large volume pump that only takes two or three strokes per quart. Harder to pump, but a lot less strokes.

Jerry

Yep. Actually it was Mr. Excitement's brother Roger.
Rick

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Just go to academy in the marine section and get a fluid pump that actually screws onto the bottle and put the hose in the tranny Its only $10

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