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TR6
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Santa is bringing me a new ESS first system for Christmas and I'm scratching my head about the install. The car is a 2002 model. Here is the unit:

http://www.saferacer.com/ess-23-liter-afff-sfi-fire-system.html?productid=550

The complication is that I cannot mount it in the passenger side because I like to run a passenger seat for instructing at DE's. That leaves the trunk (which is also where my cool shirt cooler will be going this spring). Has anyone mounted one of these in the trunk? Any gotchas to be aware of? Where do you suggest putting the nozzles? I plan to put the pull handle in the blanking panel where the radio was. Any concerns with that? I assume I'll need to reinforce it somehow.

Thanks in advance.

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Greg H.
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I don't have this system so I don't know its limitations on nozzles and tank placement, but my system is mounted in the trunk with no issues.

I have 5 nozzles in my system. I have 2 in the engine bay, 2 in the cockpit and 1 on the fuel nozzle/tank. The 2 in the engine bay hit the fuel rail area and exhaust manifold. The cockpit has an over the shoulder and the second mounted forward discharging toward the driver waist.

I see that the saferacer system is a two zone type, so I guess it's cockpit and engine bay for you.

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I installed that system in my sons car.

I mounted the bottle on the side of the tunnel but there's no reason I know of that it won't work well in the trunk. Just be sure there is enough length of tubing and actuating cable. I had some extra I cut off but don't remember if it would have been enough to reach from the trunk. Same with the tubing.

I've got two nozzles on the driver, one high and one low, and one on the engine on the fuel side. It came with three nozzles. The pull handle is mounted on the side of the tunnel near the shifter tilted up so it's east to get to. Yes, you will need to reinforce the plastic blanking plate. You wouldn't want to pull it and wind up with the whole thing hanging out of the dash. Mount it to something solid.

There were no installation issues. Just be sure to use the correct flair tool. I think it was 34 degrees - check the manual - not the normal one you find everywhere. I think I got mine from Summit Racing for not a lot of money and it worked well. Nothing like using the right tools!

It's been in for four seasons with no issues. I just open up the bottle every year to check the liquid level, CO2 cartridge, and seal.

OH... When you form the "Z" bend on the cable make it as shallow as possible or the actuating arm won't want to close down all the way. You'll see what I mean.

disclaimer: I'm not an expert on these systems. This is just my experience with our system. We've never had to put it to the test, thank goodness. If you have a question call ESS.

Good luck on the install.

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They sell extension tubing. http://www.weekend-racer.com/index.php?main_page=produ...80080108c5d69768a770e1f46

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Any suggestions on where to source a Halon system? I hear they don't freeze solid (risk of explosion) in the wintertime like the other types of systems.

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System fits in the trunk fine. Put it where the spare tire used to be.

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The trunk is an excellent place to mount the system as it helps a bit with weight distribution and also isolates the unit so that in the event of a real bad incident the extinguisher doesn't become a projectile in the drivers compartment. BTW you should also keep the handheld unit.

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FWIW, mine is mounted on the side of the tunnel on the passenger side. I can still put the passenger seat in. Pics on my website. I have two nozzles in the engine bay and one at knee level in the driver area. +1 on everything else Richard Pressman said above, especially the "z bend".

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We are going to mount mine in the trunk on the right side next to the battery to help with wt balance and put the cool suit cooler in the middle.

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Be careful about putting too much weight out at the edges of the car. You want to minimize weight at the perimeter. If you need to add weight, do it as close to the center of the car and as low as possible.

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I'm curious has anyone put a shutoff valve in the system to isolate the engine compartment from the drivers compartment? I thought about installing a valve near the driver. keeping it in the open position would allow both compartments to flood with extinguisher. shutting it would flood the engine compartment only. of course i would keep it in the open position at all times and close it in case of an engine fire.

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Thanks for the input. I'm curious about the "Z bend" that's been mentioned. I guess it will become apparent once I get the system.

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Greg H.
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The z bend issue will be obvious.

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this system is pretty easy to install anywhere. you should have no problem mounting it in your trunk.

from what i remember, i had to pick up a fitting to allow the aluminum tubing to pass through the firewall (got it at home depot), as well as some grade 8 bolts to mount the bottle to the floor. maybe these parts are included now - i'm not sure.

you may want to pick up some extra tubing - i don't think there was a whole lot extra when i was done and i did mine in the passenger footwell. from what i remember, you're supposed to put two in the engine bay and one pointed at the bottom half of the driver with this kit. that's a decent bit of tubing coming from the trunk so i'd rather be safe than sorry.

good luck!

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The t-fitting to pass through the firewall is included. The mounting bolts are not.

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I put my fire system bottle on the passenger side floor, but in front of the seat. It is under passenger's knees and doesn't interfere with them.

Dennis

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