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Jason Holland Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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I'm happy to report that the Procedure for Dyno'ing and sealing SSM's has been completed.

I am now in the process of vetting Dyno and Sealing Shops around the country. If you know of anyone in your area that you think might want to be involved, please have them drop me a line or tell me about them yourself and I'll contact them.

We're looking to have at least one place in all the regions of NASA.

If you are interested in SSM... or have expressed interest in the past, now is the time to put your money where your mouth is and let's get this program off the ground. We're getting pretty good traction here in the SE and now it's time to spread that out.

For those of you diggin' Facebook, I've set up a new group for SSM Matters. I have the group set to request invite to keep spammers out. Let me know if you have any problems getting in:

This link should work but if it doesn't just search for the "Showroom Spec Miata" group in Facebook.

I've also set up a Google group called Showroom Spec Miata. Please sign up there for news and updates if you prefer email and are not a facebook kinda person.

You can request an invite to the group here:

http://groups.google.com/group/showroomspecmiata


Let me know if I can answer any questions and I'll try to get back to you as soon as possible.

Look for an announcement soon about specific shops being added to the program...

Thank you!

Jason

P.S. Thank you to all the people that worked very hard on this document and the whole shebang! You know who you are!

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Jason Holland
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Sounds like the shop with the dyno that reads the lowest ought to become popular very soon ;-)

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Jason Holland Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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And then that dyno will very quickly be thrown out of the program and all their cars have their SSM approvals revoked!

YAY!

Jason

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Jason Holland
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Kent Carter Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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Jason, is it helpful to have information about SSM scattered among different websites? Is there something SpecMiata.com needs to do in order for you to keep the info here?

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Jason Holland Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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Kent, SM.com wouldn't be able to do all the things we need to do without a major change of software etc. Therefore the need for some other websites. It's not my first choice but I needed to get some things rolling quickly so there you have it.

Sm.com is about discussions and that's likely the way it will stay so I will update here of course but it would be great for other people to sign up at the other sites to make sure I reach as many people as possible.

thanks

Jason

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Jason Holland
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Greg Garneau
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The only real fair way to run the SSM is if the engines are dyno'd and sealed before they are put in the car... like the SRF. The car and its parts need to be eliminated from the equation. There are plenty of easy ways to "doctor" the car to handicap it a bit. They dyno and seal it at 113 (? i think this is the SFR #) and then the car is returned to normal and suddenly you have 4-5 more hp than the next SSM car. I AM for SSM, but it needs to be done right.

Jason Holland Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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Greg,

We might get there one day... It is how I would rather do it as well. But we have to prove the concept. The differences (and there will be differences) will be much smaller than the differences between a top dollar car and a budget build.

Jason

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Andrew C Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg Garneau:
The only real fair way to run the SSM is if the engines are dyno'd and sealed before they are put in the car... like the SRF. The car and its parts need to be eliminated from the equation. There are plenty of easy ways to "doctor" the car to handicap it a bit. They dyno and seal it at 113 (? i think this is the SFR #) and then the car is returned to normal and suddenly you have 4-5 more hp than the next SSM car. I AM for SSM, but it needs to be done right.

That's why you need a dyno at the track... to keep people from "gaming" the dyno. Take them straight from impound to the dyno and retune as necessary after qualifying. Impose a penalty equal to the infraction (if they are 5 hp over the limit after impound, tune them to 5 hp under the limit for the race) and people will get the message quickly.

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ctkellett Verified Driver
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How is this working at Summit Point so far Andrew, I have not had a chance to get down there since MARRS 1, and we all know how that one went. Are you guys now running the dyno @ each event?

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Chris

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