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George Munson Verified Driver
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I'm trying to get idea of the pros and cons of using the "Fat Cat" system on a 99 verses the stock setup.

Thanks George

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Things break with the 99 system alone.

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Using the 99 top shock mounts with the SM shocks without using the Fat Cat bump stops can lead to failure of the shock mount where the shock shaft pushes through the mount and results in a very wild ride...

Highly recommend the Fat Cats...

MZ

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I ordered a set of the FatCats but they seem to be on backorder (ordered from MazdaSpeed) I sure hope they get them in soon, as I've only got about a month before my car needs to be ready!

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soupy
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Personal experiance says the stock ones can fail and it hurts when they do.

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Charlie Campbell
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Frank Todaro
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I got my from Mazdaspeed, I wonder if you can order directly from FatCat http://www.miata.net/products/chassis/fatcatbump.html

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Thanks for all those that responded to my Fat Cat question. Now time to spend more money. [thumbsup]

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quote:
Originally posted by George Munson:
Thanks for all those that responded to my Fat Cat question. Now time to spend more money. [thumbsup]

And wait for them to get in stock and ship!

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quote:
Originally posted by soupy:
Personal experiance says the stock ones can fail and it hurts when they do.

I just finished my car without them.
How long do you think I have? A season or 2?

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I don't run them - Drago and I disagree on this part of the setup.

I used the washers instead, and have had no issues. I crash curbs pretty hard but don't generally spend a lot of time off course bouncing through the gravel traps and putting a lot of shock load into the suspension like certain people at Mid Ohio with the initials Blake Clements. [Big Grin]

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Mine failed very early in the second season. I use the curbs and not much off course. When it failed I did a left turn NOW into the wall at Poccono so hard it broke the motor mount and put the motor up through the hood. Along with a lot of other damage.
Put the next set together with the washers. End of season they were starting to cone shape.

You do what you want.

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Got video Charlie?

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I use the fatcats but there are washers and then there are washers. A cheap stamped washer is probably not your best bet if you go that route. A lot goes into good hardware. It's the equivalent to buying a $1 tool from the dollar store and getting a Snap-On.

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I installed the Fat Cat 99 top hats January 2009. After a couple of head-on hits that were hard enough to break the shaft on one shock and bend the other shock shaft....the red aluminum washers were fine with no tee peeing. The glue had come undone on the upper mount, but other than that no wear and tear after a season of curb use at Sebring.

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Mitch Taylor
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I just installed mine( full fatcat kit) from Tim at Mazda MS a week ago and my car is lower and with good shock travel and I managed to get another 1/2 degree on neg camber to the rear of the car. Great kit. Parts look to be great quality.

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Would someone please snap a quick photo of the "set screw" to secure the top nut that's been mentioned? Thanks.

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It's just a basic allen head set screw. Don't recall the size off the top of my head. Any good mtric supply house will have them. You could also use a basic hex head bolt, just doesn't look as nice.

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Mark Verified Driver Made Donation to Website
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This is what I use:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#catalog/116/3062/=6352wl

99642A184
Metric Alloy Steel Cup Point Socket Set Screw M10 Size, 12mm Length, 1.25mm Pitch, Fine Thread
In stock at $8.95 per Pack
This product is sold in Packs of 5

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I eyeball the distance between the spacers on each corner before each outing. 1/4"

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CP Verified Driver
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I think I'm going to play with the whiteout bottle and/or a red sharpie this weekend and make some marks that will be easy to see.

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Red finger nail polish works also....so I've been told

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I keep a bottle of white and yellow nail polish on hand for stuff like that and marking bolts I've torqued. Easier to see and the funny looks that you get when you bring it up to the check-out counter can be classic. [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Longo:
Red finger nail polish works also....so I've been told

Can I borrow yours?

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-Cy
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fingernail polish is easy to remove with nail polish remover.
sharpie is not easy to remove.
if you take things apart, you can just start over when you use nail polish.

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torque seal

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