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Hi,

I have two cordless impacts: a small DeWalt, which is very nice for a variety of uses, and a 1/2" 300ft.lb. from Milwaukee, which is very nice for changing wheels without having to break the lug nuts loose by hand (as well as for breaking other things loose).

The Milwaukee tool is wonderful, but its batteries, whether NiCad or Lithium Ion, suck. Horribly. They don't hold a charge long, and they die permanently very quickly. And they cost a lot of money.

I'm considering just replacing the Milwaukee, rather than buying yet another battery. Do any of you have recommendations for a good, powerful impact, whose batteries have decent life?

Thanks.

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http://www.jcwhitney.com/24-volt-cordless-impact-w...s=21&zmac=141&zmap=540111

Goodyear 24 volt for the win. Will break loose 80 ft lbs with a battery charge over 50%, and most importantly won't overtorque if you go the wrong way by accident. Give it 4 clicks when tightening, then go for the torque wrench and do the last 15 degrees.

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I recently bought a 24V from Northern Tool for $99 (free shipping) that comes with a rapid charger, 2 batteries, and a case for everything. I love it. They say 210 ft lbs max. I went around the garage for an hour unscrewing stuff just to see if I could find something that it wouldn't budge. [Smile]

Crank bolt and flywheel bolts came off pretty easily and the battery lasts pretty well for lug nut use. If it starts to give me trouble on a bolt, I just pop on the other battery.

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!! Keith's impact looks identical to mine other than a different color scheme. His comes with 2 batteries. Buy his!

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If you already have other Craftsman 19.2V tools look at their new 19.2V 1/2" impact. Breaks lug nuts loose without problem. Good no-load speed. Choice of regular or lithium ion batteries. Very happy with mine.

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I just bought a Sears impact that breaks lug nuts. It's small but powerful.

Craftsman 19.2V C3 Impact Wrench

Got mine for $90 and 2 batteries for $70.

Love it so far.

-bw

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I also bought the same Craftsman recently from the recommendation of the forum and it has worked great.

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Goodyear unit here. Breaks loose lug nuts easily and lasts for several tire set changes.

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quote:
Originally posted by Keith in WA:
I recently bought a 24V from Northern Tool for $99 (free shipping) that comes with a rapid charger, 2 batteries, and a case for everything. I love it.

+1

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I have the Goodyear unit I bought from PepBoys almost 3 years ago for $80. I keep waiting for it to die so I can buy something cooler, but it won't die. Still running strong.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rob Burgoon:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/24-volt-cordless-impact-w...s=21&zmac=141&zmap=540111

Goodyear 24 volt for the win. Will break loose 80 ft lbs with a battery charge over 50%, and most importantly won't overtorque if you go the wrong way by accident. Give it 4 clicks when tightening, then go for the torque wrench and do the last 15 degrees.

Link for spare battery, which you definitely want:
Goodyear 24 volt battery [thumbsup]

Pete Maerz
Post edited to correct mix up.

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quote:
Originally posted by JimEli:
quote:
Originally posted by Keith in WA:
I recently bought a 24V from Northern Tool for $99 (free shipping) that comes with a rapid charger, 2 batteries, and a case for everything. I love it.

+1
Looks like the NT one is on b/o [Frown]
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200342878_200342878

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I got a used longacre one off of ebay.
it lasts a long time on a charge, and has been flawless.
i would not hestitate to recommend it.
Josh

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quote:
Originally posted by Keith in WA:
I went around the garage for an hour unscrewing stuff just to see if I could find something that it wouldn't budge. [Smile]

I don't know you Keith (nor have I met you) but that statement I think I'm going to print out and save. Perhaps it's my dirty mind but the first thought I had was "Good thing his wife wasn't in the garage..." [rolling on floor laughin]
[duck]

Thanks for the laugh...
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Got my Goodyear at Pep Boys a few years ago. Still going strong. Went to get a few more for pitstops at this year's 25 and they no longer had the Goodyear, but they did have a Great Neck 24V impact gun which looked almost identical to the Goodyear. Batteries are slightly different though.

Long story short (too late) I like the Great Necks more than the Goodyear. My Goodyear's trigger is either off or on. The GNs have a variable speed trigger. Although I note in the product specs on JCWhitney that they say the Goodyear is variable speed. If that's true, I'm guessing the current Goodyear available at JCW is the same impact as the Great Neck at Pep Boys, just with different packaging.

quote:
Originally posted by breathesfire:
quote:
Originally posted by Rob Burgoon:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/24-volt-cordless-impact-w...s=21&zmac=141&zmap=540111

Goodyear 24 volt for the win. Will break loose 80 ft lbs with a battery charge over 50%, and most importantly won't overtorque if you go the wrong way by accident. Give it 4 clicks when tightening, then go for the torque wrench and do the last 15 degrees.

I like this one better:
Goodyear 24 volt impact gun - nice guy price [thumbsup]

Pete Maerz

When you click to buy the "nice guy price" $39.99 impact gun, the next screen lists it as just the battery. The impact gun is still $99.99.

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My GY is variable speed.

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I have had the craftsman 19.2v for a few months. I like it so far. I am using the NiCd's for the impact wrench; I save the LiIon's for the drill/driver.

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quote:
Originally posted by Rob Burgoon:
My GY is variable speed.

Mine too. And I bought it at PepBoys a few years ago too about the same time as Rob.

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Replaced a Milwaukee with a Great Neck from pep boys. Awesome gun especially at the Christmas sale price of $59.99.

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quote:
Originally posted by TR6:
quote:
Originally posted by Rob Burgoon:
My GY is variable speed.

Mine too. And I bought it at PepBoys a few years ago too about the same time as Rob.
Weird. I just checked it again. No variable speed for my GY. Maybe its about to take a dive.

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I have used a 18Volt Dewalt for the past 4 years with great success. It will break anything free and the charge will last a weekend. I have only distroyed 2 batteries which I also use with my sawzall and screwgun. So I don't know what actually made them go bad. The down side was that it was pricey, but considering I can use the same system for 3 tools, it may be worth the money.
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Just picked up a Great Neck one at PepBoys this weekend: $89.99; so there has been a bit of inflation on the price.

Haven't used it yet but will put it to work this weekend at NHMS for my second drivers school.

Anyone found a source for the battery if you wanted an extra one?

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Sear's just had the Craftsman impact on sale for 84.95 (battery not included). I've used it several times in the past week. I like it a lot.

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Anyone using the Milwalkee? I need a gun that can take off 20 sets of wheels without recharging!

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quote:
Originally posted by Brandon F.:
Just picked up a Great Neck one at PepBoys this weekend: $89.99; so there has been a bit of inflation on the price.

Haven't used it yet but will put it to work this weekend at NHMS for my second drivers school.

Anyone found a source for the battery if you wanted an extra one?

Look on the shelf just below where you picked up the impact gun. IIRC the battery itself isn't much cheaper than the gun/battery (when Pep Boys does their rebate).

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Still can't beat the deal at Northern Tool, gun with charger and 2 batteries for $99.

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I used my Pep Boys gun to change wheels after every session this weekend and loaned it to other drivers who used it and it still didn't need a charge.

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quote:
Originally posted by Glenn:
Anyone using the Milwalkee? I need a gun that can take off 20 sets of wheels without recharging!

yep 24v works fantastic. 3 yrs now, no issues.

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I have had the Milwaukee gun for 5 years and its been great, kept its charge for a long time till last month and now last only a couple days just sitting at rest. I have not tried to see how continually it will work since then. I have not tried 20 sets but I would guess you would need 2 batteries.

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My friends Milwaukee has 2 batteries and they have both died. Price the replacement batteries!!!

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I got my towns mixed up its a chicago electric batterys 65 dollars.

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i have the craftsman one, as I already had a couple of batteries, and drills, and a small impact driver, and a flashlight...

I bought it about 7-9 months ago and have used it a bunch! I really like it, and would say it's about the best tool purchase I've made for "At the track"

make sure you get two batteries

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I think one of the secrets to maintaining long battery life is to wait to re-charge till it's done. At least that's what I do and it semms to work.. Also don't keep the batteries in the heat.

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The pep boys gun has plenty of power and a battery last a long time, but be warned, after a while they seem to get some play in the shaft, and then when using it the "wiggle" starts to damage the studs.

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I have the Dewalt 18V 1/2 drive kit: Impact, charger and 2 battries. And it kicks butt... Even though I have trouble keeping track of the batteries and charger (Thanks to my fellow racers for returning my wayward stuff).

I bought it on E-Bay - this is the same kit I have: Current bid on e-bay: $191...
http://cgi.ebay.com/DEWALT-DW059K-2-18-VOLT-1...ain_0&hash=item4ceee6a06d

MZ

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^^I've got the same Dewalt gun and it works great. It was my wedding gift from my wife [Smile]

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Home Depot just put on sale a ryobi 1+ for 69 dollars, lithium batteries $89 for 2 $59 for 2 nicd the gun has 850 in/lbs torque. I do not know if that is powerful enough or not.

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850 / 12 = 70.8 ft-lbs.

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Does not look strong enough.

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When doing my own shopping for impact wrenches I noticed a pattern where if the manufacturer lists the torque by in-lbs rather than ft-lbs they're usually trying to hide the fact it's a lower-powered wrench.

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I decided to buy a 200 ft.-lb. Craftsman impact, with two batteries and a charger, for $169. That's two more batteries for my Milwaukee; seems like an easy decision.

It should be able to break loose lug nuts easily. For real heavy duty tasks, I have air.

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Field report of the Pep Boys model:

Fantastic! The wife was able to break loose all the lugs when we did the pair of tire changes this past weekend during my school.

Thanks for the recommendations everyone!
Brandon

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quote:
Originally posted by DAL_MOBILE:
quote:
Originally posted by JimEli:
quote:
Originally posted by Keith in WA:
I recently bought a 24V from Northern Tool for $99 (free shipping) that comes with a rapid charger, 2 batteries, and a case for everything. I love it.

+1
Looks like the NT one is on b/o [Frown]
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200342878_200342878

This one is in stock again, and on sale for $84.99. Get it while it lasts [Smile]

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