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Danny Steyn Verified Driver
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I was really disappointed when my camera failed at the April Road Atlanta National run in the rain earlier this year.

But at the May National we were treated to another rain day, this time on the Test day in the first session.

I am a great beleiver that you NEVER miss a rain session, as it is so seldom that you ever get to find the limits of a track in the rain before the race day.

So with my trusty Sony video cam I captured a fun, wild and often hairy session. I edited the video to comprise just over a lap containing slices from various laps.

I wasnt trying to be fast, I was specifically finding the limits in every turn, learning where I could push and where I had to be cautious.

Come ride with me, snug up your belts real tight, and enjoy the wild ride.....
Wild Fun Hairy Lap at Road Atlanta in the Rain - May 2010

Large file - 36MB - you might want to "right click and save as"

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Nice video. Is there a rain line there and did you try it?

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That was fricking AWESOME!

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Best vid of the year!

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quote:
Originally posted by CP:
Nice video. Is there a rain line there and did you try it?

Yes, but not for the highlight reel.... [Eek!]

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Rain lines are for sissies!!!! No seriously, while most tracks have a rain line, knowing what the traction is OFF the rain line is even more important, as you will often be forced off the preferred line, or have to make your passing in these zones.

And Mr Budman is right - it makes for a really boring video!

PS thanks Chris and Lee!!!

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Awesome display of car control! Also digging the blue LED gauges, must be really easy to read those!

Just curious as to what drinking system you're using? Longacre?

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Wow, stay on your toes! Great vid. Might find a bit more grip and less spin by staying off the apex line. Agree with your philosophy of getting out in the rain when you can, looks like fun.

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Awesome video. Could have used some of that car control skill at Pacific Raceway, Kent WA today....

Sway bars disconnected??
Tire pressures please??

Thanks....

Bill

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Danny, after racing (slowly) in similar conditions today and then watching your video, I now see that the key to rain racing is "stop being a big pussy." [Big Grin]

Great stuff.

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LOL!

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Nice!

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Oh man! I want to go have fun too!

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Danny, you inspired me- I went out in even worse conditions today and cut a lap four seconds faster than my best rain lap yesterday. Yeee-haaawwww! [Big Grin] [yep]

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If I hadn't seen you back it up multiple times and saw that video without knowing you or your results in the wet. I would say that #$%^&* will be in the wall within 3 laps. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Drago:
If I hadn't seen you back it up multiple times and saw that video without knowing you or your results in the wet. I would say that #$%^&* will be in the wall within 3 laps. [Big Grin]

Drago - been there - done that [Smile]

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quote:
Originally posted by Pat Newton:
Danny, you inspired me- I went out in even worse conditions today and cut a lap four seconds faster than my best rain lap yesterday. Yeee-haaawwww! [Big Grin] [yep]

Glad I could help Pat - most people could be SOOOOOO much faster in the rain, but never want to push and find the limits. Once you find the limit then you can reel off lap after lap at 99% and still be comfortable and safe.

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quote:
Originally posted by Kyle Keenan:
Awesome display of car control! Also digging the blue LED gauges, must be really easy to read those!

Just curious as to what drinking system you're using? Longacre?

Kyle
yup guages are easy to read in the car - not so easy to see the change over time on video scrubbing the time line - analog guages are definitely better for that. Easy to scrub the time line and see a falling oil pressure guage needle or a rising water temp needle.

And yes I use the Longacre bottles and cages with a cool suit quick release for the helmet connection.

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Danny "Sideways" Steyn,
I may be way off base here (never driven Road Atlanta) but it looked as though you were still driving the dry line - if you were, why?

Was it to see, as you note, what grip is available in the wet while on the line and then you would modify the actual race line come competition time?

Everything I've read/heard/had pounded into my head says to stay off line and you'll have a good race.

Fun video to say the least - thanks for posting it.

Brandon

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Awesome video Danny!

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Thanks Zack and Brandon

Brandon - as mentioned before there is a rain line at most tracks - sometimes the rain line and dry line coincide. But as Mr Budman said before - the safe rainline doesnt make the hightlight reel!!

I will tell you though that the advice you were given (to stay off the dry line) could be detrimental to your results. There are many corners on many tracks where the rain line = the dry line. Braking line and zone might be different, but often the turn in, apex, and track out are identical........ and then there are the turns that your advice refers to .... the turns where the rain line is completely different to the dry line.

So it comes back to going out in every wet session and finding your limits on the track in the rain on ALL lines.

Just my humble sideways opinion....

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quote:
Originally posted by W. Bonsell:
Awesome video. Could have used some of that car control skill at Pacific Raceway, Kent WA today....

Sway bars disconnected??
Tire pressures please??

Thanks....

Bill

Bill
these were brand new RA1s that I was bedding in. Tire pressures Hot - 36-38psi
I prefer sway bar on at soft setting for Road Atlanta in pouring rain.
hope this helps

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Damn, that was fun to watch... amazing driving Danny.

When Road Atlanta had the concrete at numerous apexes there was a more distinct rain line. That concrete would be diabolical durin pissin down pourin holy crap downpours... and when it was chilly, it was even more brutal.

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