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W. Bonsell
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Can't find in archives...my belts dated October 2008..
Will they make it one more season?? Seems to me it's either 2 or 3 years from manufacture. Thanks.

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Are they FIA or SFI? Look at your sanctioning body's rules. As I recall, in NASA SFI's are good for 2 years and FIA for 5.

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If not FIA, the belts expire at end of 2010

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And if they are FIA belts, there should be a tag that explicitly says "Not Valid After 2011" or whatever year they expire.

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Belts are SFI...5 Point Crow...I've liked them especially with the 2" lap belt...2 years then???

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The year built plus two years

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Thanks wheel...sounds like it is based on calendar year. 2008 manufacture means replace in 2011...am I understanding this?

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When they expire send them back to Crow for re-webbing. They turn them around in a few days for an insanely small amount of money.

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Your belts are good until 12/31/2010. If you buy new, make sure they have a 2011 date. Re-webbing is also an option, if there is no wear or corrosion on the hardware. Some manufacturers will not re- web.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eau Rouge:
When they expire send them back to Crow for re-webbing. They turn them around in a few days for an insanely small amount of money.

http://www.crowenterprizes.com/

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Crow used to recert any manufacturers belts but that was against SFI rules. They only changed the policy in the last year or so to cover only Crow products.

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Not real familiar with crow. Any of the other manufacturers reweb?

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I have several friends who use the crow belts in their cars, and none have had one bad thing to say about them.
for some reason I still choose to buy willans or schroth though.

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For SFI belts:
Last time I looked the NASA rule was 2 years from date of manufacture, with no additional time. So belts dated 4-2008 expire on 4-2010.

SCCA and also Midwestern Council have the same wording giving the remainder of the callandar year. So a belt dated 4-2008 would expire 12-31-2010

FIA belts will have a tag stating something like "not valid after 2012" This is 5 years from date of manufacture. Note that some belts carry both a FIA and SFI certification. Th longest date takes precidence.

There is virtually no difference between SFI and FIA testing/certification. The difference is which group gets paid for the certication. I was told FIA is $5000 per belt design. 5 point costs $5k, another 5 k for 6 point, another 5k for pull ups, another 5 k for 2" belts, etc. Since SFI is a USA based group, USA sanctioning bodies generally require the SFI standards.

Most seat belt companies will reweb their own belts for a nominal fee.

Off the shelf belts are generally dated 2-3 months after manufacture. So belts built this week (Nov 2010) will have a Jan 2011 build date tag. This allows for a certain amount of shipping and shelf life.

Whenever possible try to buy belts in the early part of the year. This gives you the longest usefull life

Dave

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So who makes/sells FIA belts? Just curious to see if it makes sense from a dollar standpoint to go with them over SFI.

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quote:
Originally posted by htron435:
So who makes/sells FIA belts? Just curious to see if it makes sense from a dollar standpoint to go with them over SFI.

schroth among others.

http://www.schrothracing.com/store/Competition/formula/formula-II


i always buy FIA over SFI.

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Safecraft rewebs their belts once for free.

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I am certain that nobody would reweb belts that they did not make.
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FIA belts include Sparco, Willans, Sabelt, OMP, Schroth, and others.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Stevens:
Crow used to recert any manufacturers belts but that was against SFI rules. They only changed the policy in the last year or so to cover only Crow products.

Who beside Crow will re-web thier belts? I have used Simpson belts for years and like them, but I don't believe they offer anything other than new belts. At ~$150 per set, it's worth investigating.
Rick
P.S. No hijack intended, but as I recall, NASA enforces a five year expiration on window nets.

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Simpson used to reweb their belts for a typical fee of $75. $10 shipping each way, is it really worth it to save $50

SCCA requires an SFI tag on window nets with no expiration date. I do recall NASA enforcing a 5 year rule on nets

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Last year I sent my G-Force belts to their reweb program and paid $110 plus shipping. They sent me a completly new set of belts.
http://www.gforce.com/programs/reweb.php

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I have used Crow belts in several of my cars. Great to deal with. Often if you call you will deal with Fred Crow himself. Very helpful and make a good product. No affiliation here, just a happy customer.

I have used the HANS 5 point and 6 point harnesses. Good stuff.

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quote:
Originally posted by wheel:
I am certain that nobody would reweb belts that they did not make.
wheel

Crow did it for years.

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quote:
Originally posted by davew:
Simpson used to reweb their belts for a typical fee of $75. $10 shipping each way, is it really worth it to save $50

Save 50 bucks 15 or 20 times a year and it adds up. Watch the pennies and the dollars take care of themselves.

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quote:
Originally posted by htron435:
So who makes/sells FIA belts? Just curious to see if it makes sense from a dollar standpoint to go with them over SFI.

HMS Motorsports for Schroth belts

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Ultrashield camlock harness reweb :

- 5 pt = $ 50
- 6 pt = $ 55
- Harness with pads & sternum = $ 85

Just sent mine off

   

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